Trump OK with Special Counsel ... BUT. will the left be OK with the findings?

[blessedwife318]

Which means exactly nothing on the subject at hand...treatment by the press.

You would have a point if members of the media actuallyt pulled the trigger.

As it is, you have nothing to refute Trump's statement.

Ok since you want to make this about the press:

When has any press called Trump ""hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." as was said about John Adams

Adam supporting press on the other hand said that if Jefferson was elected "“we would see our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution.” and that “murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will openly be taught and practiced.”

And lets not forget that John Adams pushed for and signed the Alien and Sedition act partly to end the "Fake News" being brandied about during his time in office.

John Q Adams partisan Press went after Jackson and his wife calling her a bigamist, and Jackson himself blamed the negative press for her death a few days after he won

Jackson's Partisan press accused Q Adams for having setting up an American Prostitute for the Czar Alexander I

The partisan Press for the Whigs claimed that James Polk was a slave trader by making up a fake excerpt to a book.

So no Trump does not have it the worst of any politician ever in the history of mankind. I'm just looking at American History here. Expand that to all of world history and we will find all kinds of politicians who have had it much worse than Trump.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

And that's why he got elected and will be re-elected even if he is in jail.

HankD

Funny......then I should run for NJ Governor.....

 

[carpro]

Ok since you want to make this about the press:

When has any press called Trump ""hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." as was said about John Adams

Adam supporting press on the other hand said that if Jefferson was elected "“we would see our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution.” and that “murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will openly be taught and practiced.”



.

It's always been about the press. Did you just wake up? Duh.

Similar things have been said aboutTrump and his family, thousands and thousands and thousands of times. He's even been accused of having sex with his daughter. No way it could have been printed more in the 1700s than it has been printed and repeated orally here. And most people then never read what was written.

Sheer volume alone awards the most vilified by the press award to Trump. No one else even comes close. Ever.

 

[blessedwife318]

It's always been about the press. Did you just wake up? Duh.

Similar things have been said aboutTrump and his family, thousands and thousands and thousands of times. He's even been accused of having sex with his daughter. No way it could have been printed more in the 1700s than it has been printed and repeated orally here. And most people then never read what was written.

Sheer volume alone awards the most vilified by the press award to Trump. No one else even comes close. Ever.

If he and his supporter want to continue to play the victim card that is their prerogative. But it is pure hubris to say he has it worst than any other politician in all of history when you consider the number of coup de gras, assassinations, and destruction of political opponents and their families through out all of history.

 

[HankD]

Ok since you want to make this about the press:

When has any press called Trump ""hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." as was said about John Adams

Adam supporting press on the other hand said that if Jefferson was elected "“we would see our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution.” and that “murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will openly be taught and practiced.”

And lets not forget that John Adams pushed for and signed the Alien and Sedition act partly to end the "Fake News" being brandied about during his time in office.

John Q Adams partisan Press went after Jackson and his wife calling her a bigamist, and Jackson himself blamed the negative press for her death a few days after he won

Jackson's Partisan press accused Q Adams for having setting up an American Prostitute for the Czar Alexander I

The partisan Press for the Whigs claimed that James Polk was a slave trader by making up a fake excerpt to a book.

So no Trump does not have it the worst of any politician ever in the history of mankind. I'm just looking at American History here. Expand that to all of world history and we will find all kinds of politicians who have had it much worse than Trump.

Actually he might be. It depends on definitions and/or qualifications.

No computers, tablets, iphones, smart phones, internet, television 24/7, etc, etc... until modern times.
So going by the number of people affected and the speed of the fake news to proliferate through the population he (Trump) may indeed be the worst treated in terms of people affected and speed thereof.

Even globally.

HankD

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Ok since you want to make this about the press:

When has any press called Trump ""hideous hermaphroditical character, which has neither the force and firmness of a man, nor the gentleness and sensibility of a woman." as was said about John Adams

Adam supporting press on the other hand said that if Jefferson was elected "“we would see our wives and daughters the victims of legal prostitution.” and that “murder, robbery, rape, adultery and incest will openly be taught and practiced.”

And lets not forget that John Adams pushed for and signed the Alien and Sedition act partly to end the "Fake News" being brandied about during his time in office.

John Q Adams partisan Press went after Jackson and his wife calling her a bigamist, and Jackson himself blamed the negative press for her death a few days after he won

Jackson's Partisan press accused Q Adams for having setting up an American Prostitute for the Czar Alexander I

The partisan Press for the Whigs claimed that James Polk was a slave trader by making up a fake excerpt to a book.

So no Trump does not have it the worst of any politician ever in the history of mankind. I'm just looking at American History here. Expand that to all of world history and we will find all kinds of politicians who have had it much worse than Trump.

I really hate that Trump uses a military graduation to whine about himself. They (these graduates) have gone through programs designed to make them "a cut above" ..... with I might add, a No Excuse attitude.......get it done. These young men & women have a purpose in life now. They will be productive, and many many times it will be a productivity intertwined with criticism & stress. They have been trained Not to Complain & Not to spaz out under stress. Perhaps this Baby of a President....who should be an model of Strength, Focus, Morality & Integrity to our entire nation, could learn some valuable lessons from these young graduates.

 

[HankD]

I really hate that Trump uses a military graduation to whine about himself. They (these graduates) have gone through a programs designed to make them "a cut above" ..... with I might add, a No Excuse attitude.......get it done. These young men & women have a purpose in life now. They will be productive, and many many times it will be a productivity intertwined with criticism & stress. They have been trained Not to Complain & Not to spaz out under stress. Perhaps this Baby of a President....who should be an model of Strength, Focus, Morality & Integrity to our entire nation, could learn some valuable lessons from these young graduates.

What lesson might that be? How many of them do you know personally?

HankD

 

[carpro]

If he and his supporter want to continue to play the victim card that is their prerogative. .

You can call it what you want , but speaking the truth needs to done more, not less.

Look at you. You spent how many posts and used how much time to beat down a purely factual and fairly trivial statement?

Multiply that by a few million and you have the press beating back any and all truth about Trump that is beneficial to the American people and propagating even more lies.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

What lesson might that be? How many of them do you know personally?

HankD

Leadership for one....then morality, Work Ethic, Integrity.......oh heres one, Ethics. But for starters for Trump, Sanity would be a 101 course.

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Leadership for one....then morality, Work Ethic, Integrity.......oh heres one, Ethics. But for starters for Trump, Sanity would be a 101 course.

Another just remembered for Donny......How to be a responsible grown up

 

[blessedwife318]

Actually he might be. It depends on definitions and/or qualifications.

No computers, tablets, iphones, smart phones, internet, television 24/7, etc, etc... until modern times.
So going by the number of people affected and the speed of the fake news to proliferate through the population he (Trump) may indeed be the worst treated in terms of people affected and speed thereof.

Even globally.

HankD

You guys are acting like there is not a counter to every press out there. As has always been true in the United States there has been a press outlet pulling for their respective party. This whole 20th century idea that the press can and should be unbiased is ridiculous. It never has been and it never will be and I'm ok with that fact. With the internet anyone can and does get their opinion out there and people will find their echo chamber to listen to. People on the far left stay with their far left web sites and news outlets and those outlets play to their audience. People on the far right stay with their far right web sites and news outlets and those outlets play to their audience. That is just simple capitalism at work.

The same was true back int he 1800s, the Federalist, Whigs, Democratic-Republicans, Republicans, Know Nothing etc all had their respective publishing arms that viciously attacked their opponents.

Given the response I see in the comment sections of any article I would say the confirmation bias is very strong therefore the number of people affected is highly over estimated. Those who are inclined to see Trump has horrible will view any press release confirming that as confirmation. Anyone that sees Trump as wonderful will see press releases as confirmation that the media is out to get him.

And full Disclosure since I've not waded into the Russian allegations on this board, I DO NOT believe there was any collusion between Russia and Trump. I don't think Putin is that stupid. So I don't think there will be anything for the special prosecutor to find.

 

[carpro]

You guys are acting like there is not a counter to every press out there. .

That's because there's not. The established left wing news outlets control the airwaves and the printing presses. No other group even comes close.

Combine that with the deep state leftists providing them with classified information and you have the loudest and crookedest voice in history.

 

[blessedwife318]

You can call it what you want , but speaking the truth needs to done more, not less.

Look at you. You spent how many posts and used how much time to beat down a purely factual and fairly trivial statement?

Multiply that by a few million and you have the press beating back any and all truth about Trump that is beneficial to the American people and propagating even more lies.

Meh, I was bored this morning so I figured I would dump some gas on a fire and watch it burn. I would think as a Trump supporter you would appreciate that.

Its not factual (at best its hyperbole), as my post showed, and if it was you could actually defend it with empirical evidence that he has had it worse than any other politician in all of world history. But I don't expect that. Digging into all the assassinated, coup de gras, revolutions would take a lot of time, not to mention ever single local election where there is a heated battle for mayor, or town council etc.

 

[carpro]

Meh, I was bored this morning so I figured I would dump some gas on a fire and watch it burn. I would think as a Trump supporter you would appreciate that.

Its not factual (at best its hyperbole), as my post showed, .

Your posts showed nothing but an extensive effort to change the subjecty in an effort to control the narrative. It failed.

Trump's statement stands unrefuted.

 

[InTheLight]

Your posts showed nothing but an extensive effort to change the subjecty in an effort to control the narrative. It failed.

Trump's statement stands unrefuted.

A guy that has been a politician for less than two years, has been president for less than four months has been the most attacked politician in history? Hyperbole at its peak.

 

[carpro]

A guy that has been a politician for less than two years, has been president for less than four months has been the most attacked politician in history? Hyperbole at its peak.

Prove him wrong.

 

[blessedwife318]

That's because there's not. The established left wing news outlets control the airwaves and the printing presses. No other group even comes close.

Combine that with the deep state leftists providing them with classified information and you have the loudest and crookedest voice in history.

Your posts showed nothing but an extensive effort to change the subjecty in an effort to control the narrative. It failed.

Trump's statement stands unrefuted.

If you want to believe that go ahead. I as a student of history see it as another piece evidence of his pure narcissism.

I rolled my eyes at the narcissism of Obama, and I'm going to roll my eyes at the narcissism of Trump, (the R after the name makes no difference to me)

 

[blessedwife318]

A guy that has been a politician for less than two years, has been president for less than four months has been the most attacked politician in history? Hyperbole at its peak.

Yup does't matter that 4 previous presidents have been assassinated, he has it worse.

 

[HankD]

You guys are acting like there is not a counter to every press out there. As has always been true in the United States there has been a press outlet pulling for their respective party. This whole 20th century idea that the press can and should be unbiased is ridiculous. It never has been and it never will be and I'm ok with that fact. With the internet anyone can and does get their opinion out there and people will find their echo chamber to listen to. People on the far left stay with their far left web sites and news outlets and those outlets play to their audience. People on the far right stay with their far right web sites and news outlets and those outlets play to their audience. That is just simple capitalism at work.

The same was true back int he 1800s, the Federalist, Whigs, Democratic-Republicans, Republicans, Know Nothing etc all had their respective publishing arms that viciously attacked their opponents.

Given the response I see in the comment sections of any article I would say the confirmation bias is very strong therefore the number of people affected is highly over estimated. Those who are inclined to see Trump has horrible will view any press release confirming that as confirmation. Anyone that sees Trump as wonderful will see press releases as confirmation that the media is out to get him.

And full Disclosure since I've not waded into the Russian allegations on this board, I DO NOT believe there was any collusion between Russia and Trump. I don't think Putin is that stupid. So I don't think there will be anything for the special prosecutor to find.

Not sure what your point is. I have never defended president Trump as a sinless person, he is a sinner just like the rest of us. Although there are apparently saints here on the BB who believe he is a sinner of great magnitude.

Vindication:
The point(s) I was making (or trying to) is 1) that the news today is instantaneous often times we are watching a crime e.g. a Chicago riot in progress 2) The news is not only instantaneous but global e.g. France terrorist murder scene complete with bodies, 3) the population of the world has increased geometrically since John Adams was watching CNN on his iPod or Skyping Ben Franklin in France.



HankD

 

[carpro]

If you want to believe that go ahead.

In the absence of proof otherwise, and in the name of common sense, I do.