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Trump posted an image portraying himself as Jesus Christ

Scarlett O.

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As many called him the 'black Messiah" and no one got up in arms over that
Obama never called HIMSELF the black Messiah. Obama never posted a picture of himself online as Jesus. You are comparing apples and oranges.
Some who voted for Obama may have referred to him as such. And they should be ashamed. And mark my words, it was a social construct, not a religious one. And I know plenty of people who spoke against that.

Trump posted an image HIMSELF OF HIMSELF as Jesus Christ. And we should not say that was wrong? No one is allowed to speak against that?

Why? I don't get it.
 

JesusFan

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Obama never called HIMSELF the black Messiah. Obama never posted a picture of himself online as Jesus. You are comparing apples and oranges.
Some who voted for Obama may have referred to him as such. And they should be ashamed. And mark my words, it was a social construct, not a religious one. And I know plenty of people who spoke against that.

Trump posted an image HIMSELF OF HIMSELF as Jesus Christ. And we should not say that was wrong? No one is allowed to speak against that?

Why? I don't get it.
was stating his followers called him that
 

JesusFan

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Obama never called HIMSELF the black Messiah. Obama never posted a picture of himself online as Jesus. You are comparing apples and oranges.
Some who voted for Obama may have referred to him as such. And they should be ashamed. And mark my words, it was a social construct, not a religious one. And I know plenty of people who spoke against that.

Trump posted an image HIMSELF OF HIMSELF as Jesus Christ. And we should not say that was wrong? No one is allowed to speak against that?

Why? I don't get it.
I am not supporting what trump did, but was just saying IF president Obama had done same exact thing, press would have stated he deserved to show himself as bein g that, and many of his followers labeled him as the 'black Messiah"
 

Ascetic X

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Trump makes another poor choice. He reposted an image by Irish for Trump and he calls it nice.

If Biden, Obama, or Kamala posted an image of Jesus standing close to them, conservatives and evangelicals would condemn it.
 

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Scarlett O.

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Trump makes another poor choice. He reposted an image by Irish for Trump and he calls it nice.

If Biden, Obama, or Kamala posted an image of Jesus standing close to them, conservatives and evangelicals would condemn it.
And J. D. Vance said that the first image we've been discussing with Trump AS Jesus was "just a joke" and the only reason Trump took it down was that he felt "that no one was getting his humor".

Soooo..... Who is lying? The President or the Vice- President? Because their two truths don't match.

At least Mike Johnson says that he was the one who asked the President to take it down. But who knows if that is even true?

I think I'll go make some popcorn and sit here and watch how Trump's defenders come back and say how that neither man was lying. And even if they were, well, so what.

This new post is just as disgusting to me as was the image the White House (the White House!!! ) posted before Pope Leo was made Pope of Trump as Pope. And not because I believe in a papacy.

I cannot bear this idea that some here and everywhere hold that President Trump is untouchable and should never be criticized or questioned.
 

Ascetic X

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And J. D. Vance said that the first image we've been discussing with Trump AS Jesus was "just a joke" and the only reason Trump took it down was that he felt "that no one was getting his humor".

Soooo..... Who is lying? The President or the Vice- President? Because their two truths don't match.

At least Mike Johnson says that he was the one who asked the President to take it down. But who knows if that is even true?

I think I'll go make some popcorn and sit here and watch how Trump's defenders come back and say how that neither man was lying. And even if they were, well, so what.

This new post is just as disgusting to me as was the image the White House (the White House!!! ) posted before Pope Leo was made Pope of Trump as Pope. And not because I believe in a papacy.

I cannot bear this idea that some here and everywhere hold that President Trump is untouchable and should never be criticized or questioned.
Every leader, in all realms of life, needs close and consistent scrutiny.

To dismiss various actions because we cannot know exactly what the thought was behind them seems sycophantic, fawning, obsequious, servile, and deflective. Besides, the words posted along with an image give us a good idea about what a person thinks and intends.

I am not hating Trump or mocking him in any way. There is much that he is doing that we can cheer and be grateful for, Eliminating taxes on tips, mandating merit based hiring, fighting narcotics terrorism, and securing our borders are great examples.

However, I think when someone we admire and respect does something sacrilegious, Christians should be the first and loudest in protesting such behavior. When the behavior continues, despite public outcry, we have a serious problem.

Firing Paula White and his current evangelical advisors should be one of his new priorities. There are much more authentic Christian leaders that can take their place.
 
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Ben1445

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We are in a bit of a different government here in the States. I think it is good to remember that we are discussing an authority at this point. He has not told us to worship him or to stop worshipping God.

James 3:1
My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

The President is the authority. I’m not sure what benefit there is in this conversation unless someone is having doubts about it and thinks that Trump is Jesus. (If someone does think that, there may very well be some other bigger problems.)
 

Ascetic X

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We are in a bit of a different government here in the States. I think it is good to remember that we are discussing an authority at this point. He has not told us to worship him or to stop worshipping God.

James 3:1
My brethren, be not many masters, knowing that we shall receive the greater condemnation.

The President is the authority. I’m not sure what benefit there is in this conversation unless someone is having doubts about it and thinks that Trump is Jesus. (If someone does think that, there may very well be some other bigger problems.)
Yeah, there is no danger of Trump wanting us to worship him.

 

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Ben1445

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Yeah, there is no danger of Trump wanting us to worship him.

does this present a conflict of choice in your life?
Is artificial intelligence, literally made up ideas, making anyone unsure of whether or not President Trump is the second coming of Christ?
 

Ben1445

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I would be more concerned about the guy who calls himself ayatollah.

Persian āyatollāh, literally, sign of God, from Arabic āyatallāh, from āya sign, miracle + allāh God
 
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