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Trump Putin's Lapdog?

Reformed1689

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He didn't lead with strength. If he had, he would have brought Ukraine into NATO. Instead, he kowtowed to Putin.
Second, January 6 became an insurrection as soon as people stormed the Capital building.
Yes, he openly supported the insurrection and waited far too long before he realized his Machiavellian plans were for naught.

If you support Donald Trump, realize you are supporting the spirit of antichrist.
No I'm supporting good policies. Period. So do you support Sasse's lies because you want him as a politician? See how absurd that argument is?

How long do you think Trump waited before speaking against what was going on at the Capitol? It wasn't that long. He did not support an insurrection. That is a lie. In fact he talked about PEACEFUL protests the entire time.
 

Revmitchell

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That's not evidence. And I'm not trying to get away from anything, but I don't put it like you do. I'm not electing a pastor (or a king). Not to mention Sasse didn't run so....

Trump didn't need to sanction. He led with strength. First of all, Jan 6th was not an insurrection. That's nonsense. Riot, yes, not insurrection. And no, he doesn't endorse what happened at the capitol, that's another lie. You bought it hook line and sinker. Foolish.

gotta quit feeding that thing
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
No I'm supporting good policies. Period. So do you support Sasse's lies because you want him as a politician? See how absurd that argument is?

How long do you think Trump waited before speaking against what was going on at the Capitol? It wasn't that long. He did not support an insurrection. That is a lie. In fact he talked about PEACEFUL protests the entire time.
Again, what lies. He spoke truth about Donald Trump and the January 6 insurrection.

Trump gleefully applauded, until security guards were killed and he had to try save face.

Realize that antichrist starts out with seemingly good policies before his tyranny. Stop being fooled by Trumps lies.
 

Reformed1689

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Again, what lies. He spoke truth about Donald Trump and the January 6 insurrection.

Trump gleefully applauded, until security guards were killed and he had to try save face.

Realize that antichrist starts out with seemingly good policies before his tyranny. Stop being fooled by Trumps lies.
First, no security guard was killed. Check your facts. 2nd, Trump did not approve of what happened in the Capitol. Find one instance where he did.

You are the one believing lies here. Not me.
 

Revmitchell

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Again, what lies. He spoke truth about Donald Trump and the January 6 insurrection.

Trump gleefully applauded, until security guards were killed and he had to try save face.

Realize that antichrist starts out with seemingly good policies before his tyranny. Stop being fooled by Trumps lies.

See here is the thing that is making you look bad. You are conflating his speech and those who were there peacefully protesting with those who went into the Capital building (of which they were actually let in by Capital Police). Those two events are distinct and separate. You want them to be the same because you think, in your deluded mind, that doing so, while dishonest, will make Trump look bad. That is your end game here. No matter what the truth is you want him to look bad because you do not like his policies.

I didnt vote for Trump in 2016. I thought he would be self serving. I wanted Cruz to win. I also had questions about his character. He certainly has a past of which he has been, in the past, open about. I didnt care for many of his tweets. Politically he is rough around the edges. However, Dr. James Dobson said he was there when Trump gave his heart to Christ. Now you can go ahead and call Dr. Dobson a liar, as is your practice, if you want to but you have no grounding to do so. Trump lifted up the name of Christ more than any President in history. He did so from the Whitehouse, from the Rose Garden and on the trail.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.

Since President Trump claims Christ openly and publicly and praises Him and has made public statements that Christ is far better than he is you do not have a case to say that President Trump is the antichrist. Scripture says otherwise. See you believe you and Sasse are better than President Trump. This is indicated by your vehement hatred of him as displayed on this board. You are unable and unwillng to disagree with someone without going to extremes to try and discredit them.

Then you work to tie Baptist Board members to the antichrist. Your hatred of President Trump bleeds over to other relationships. This is what hatred does. Hatred never is satisfied to just sit where you park it. It spreads out like jello before you put it in the fridge when spilled. Now you are spilling your hatred of this man onto anyone who you deem supports him in ways you personally find unacceptable. President Trump threatens you and anyone who supports him threatens you so you lash out like a toddler who cannot get their way.

Your posts are filled with vitrol and hatred and do not represent Christ. You are in need of someone to teach you how to disagree without being threatened by the disagreement and to respond without ungodly accusations. President Trump is not a perfect man and needs work in many areas as do we all including you.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
See here is the thing that is making you look bad. You are conflating his speech and those who were there peacefully protesting with those who went into the Capital building (of which they were actually let in by Capital Police). Those two events are distinct and separate. You want them to be the same because you think, in your deluded mind, that doing so, while dishonest, will make Trump look bad. That is your end game here. No matter what the truth is you want him to look bad because you do not like his policies.

I didnt vote for Trump in 2016. I thought he would be self serving. I wanted Cruz to win. I also had questions about his character. He certainly has a past of which he has been, in the past, open about. I didnt care for many of his tweets. Politically he is rough around the edges. However, Dr. James Dobson said he was there when Trump gave his heart to Christ. Now you can go ahead and call Dr. Dobson a liar, as is your practice, if you want to but you have no grounding to do so. Trump lifted up the name of Christ more than any President in history. He did so from the Whitehouse, from the Rose Garden and on the trail.

1Jn 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
1Jn 2:23 No one who denies the Son has the Father. Whoever confesses the Son has the Father also.

Since President Trump claims Christ openly and publicly and praises Him and has made public statements that Christ is far better than he is you do not have a case to say that President Trump is the antichrist. Scripture says otherwise. See you believe you and Sasse are better than President Trump. This is indicated by your vehement hatred of him as displayed on this board. You are unable and unwillng to disagree with someone without going to extremes to try and discredit them.

Then you work to tie Baptist Board members to the antichrist. Your hatred of President Trump bleeds over to other relationships. This is what hatred does. Hatred never is satisfied to just sit where you park it. It spreads out like jello before you put it in the fridge when spilled. Now you are spilling your hatred of this man onto anyone who you deem supports him in ways you personally find unacceptable. President Trump threatens you and anyone who supports him threatens you so you lash out like a toddler who cannot get their way.

Your posts are filled with vitrol and hatred and do not represent Christ. You are in need of someone to teach you how to disagree without being threatened by the disagreement and to respond without ungodly accusations. President Trump is not a perfect man and needs work in many areas as do we all including you.
Three things:
1) I fully understand that not all persons at the rally on Jan 6, 2021 participated in the insurrection. I also understand that those who did are going to jail because Donald Trump instigated them to do so and then left them to suffer the consequences. In other words, Trump two-timed them, got them to do his dirty work and then abandoned them. They are going to jail while Trump remains free.

2) Dobson is a "just say the prayer" preacher. He treats it like a magic incantation. Words are cheap when actions show no repentance.

3) Christians have been duped in the past. German Christians supported Hitler, who also had the spirit of antichrist. Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin all exhibit the spirit of antichrist. I am warning you, and other brothers, to stop supporting one who is antichrist.
To Donald Trump, I say, go home, grow up in the faith (if you actually are a Christian), show us for the next 5 years or more that Jesus has changed you, then try running again. At present you are like the unrepentant man of 1 Corinthians 5. You are to be shunned until you have shown your repentance.
 

Revmitchell

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Three things:
1) I fully understand that not all persons at the rally on Jan 6, 2021 participated in the insurrection. I also understand that those who did are going to jail because Donald Trump instigated them to do so and then left them to suffer the consequences. In other words, Trump two-timed them, got them to do his dirty work and then abandoned them. They are going to jail while Trump remains free.

Where did Trump say to break into the Capital and destroy it? What specific words did he use to instigate going into the Capital?

2) Dobson is a "just say the prayer" preacher. He treats it like a magic incantation. Words are cheap when actions show no repentance.

Have you spoken to Dr. Dobson about it? Does he acknowledge that it is like an incantation? Not sure what you are saying here. Are you accusing Dr. Dobson of not being saved? Your words indicate more of a caricature of what he believes rather than something specific. Your vitriol continues.

3) Christians have been duped in the past. German Christians supported Hitler, who also had the spirit of antichrist. Donald Trump, Joe Biden and Vladimir Putin all exhibit the spirit of antichrist. I am warning you, and other brothers, to stop supporting one who is antichrist.
To Donald Trump, I say, go home, grow up in the faith (if you actually are a Christian), show us for the next 5 years or more that Jesus has changed you, then try running again. At present you are like the unrepentant man of 1 Corinthians 5. You are to be shunned until you have shown your repentance.

yes Christians have been misled about a lot of things over the years. But that is not evidence that Trump is the antichrist or has that spirit. I gave you clear scripture of which you ignored. Hate, drives people be misled also. Your posts are dripping with hatred. It would seem if you are going to assert the lostness of men like President Trump and Dr. Dobson you would do so with some level of somberness and fear of God considering the grace needed in your own life.

I Peter 3:15 says we are to talk about the hope that is within us with meekness and fear, a sense of who we are in relation to a Holy and righteous God. Your posts do not reflect that sense at all. You simply want several things:

1. To see that President Trump is not only defeated but destroyed.
2. To see that anyone supporting President Trump is defeated and destroyed.
3. To provoke others, who you find that supports President Trump, with hyperbolic words that incites anger and high levels of emotion.
4. You want President Trump to be the antichrist because you want him destroyed.
5. Your attitude to President Trump and anyone who supports him does not present Christ but does, in and of itself, mirror the antichrist. You are not the antichrist and I do not doubt your salvation but you are guilty of the very attitude and misbehavior that you accuse others of having.

Your posts are no less evil than President Trump's tweets. If Trump is antichrist based on his behavior then what are you based on your behavior on this board? You do not have to agree with him but exaggerating his behavior for the purpose of personal destruction is as close the behavior mirroring the antichrist as a Christian can get.

Your posts do not come across as sincere or a warning. You will not convince anyone of your claims. You do show what is in your heart.
 

Reformed1689

Well-Known Member
People can have their own opinions but definitely not their own facts. Anyone who says Donald Trump was behind the capitol riots is either dishonest or severely deceived and misinformed by the Democrats.
 

just-want-peace

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Based on some of the posts here - answers to one I have on ignore - I strongly suspect that this poster is a re-incarnation of ZAAC or ZAAK, from several years back. Any way to tell if it is the same??
Attitude & palavering seem ‘bout equal ?????‍
 
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Salty

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...2) Dobson is a "just say the prayer" preacher. He treats it like a magic incantation. Words are cheap when actions show no repentance. ....

Just to clarify - Dobson is NOT an ordained minister, pastor or ect!

He is simply a psychologist, as well as a talk show host - who founded Focus on the Family.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Just to clarify - Dobson is NOT an ordained minister, pastor or ect!

He is simply a psychologist, as well as a talk show host - who founded Focus on the Family.
Do you agree then that his understanding of "pray the sinners prayer and you're saved" is just wishful thinking?
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
Based on some of the posts here - answers to one I have on ignore - I strongly suspect that this poster is a re-incarnation of ZAAC or ZAAK, from several years back. Any way to tell if it is the same??
Attitude & palavering seem ‘bout equal ?????‍
Well, if you're inferring myself, I have no clue who you are referring to.
However, I am sure that radical individualist right-wing persons who care less about moral character than they care about borderline anarchy will not like me addressing their sacred cows.
 

AustinC

Well-Known Member
People can have their own opinions but definitely not their own facts. Anyone who says Donald Trump was behind the capitol riots is either dishonest or severely deceived and misinformed by the Democrats.
Keep telling yourself that if it helps you sleep better, but it certainly won't change the fact that Donald Trump stirred up and spurned on the insurrectionists.
 
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