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Trump reinstates ban on US funds promoting abortion overseas
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Ahh, so anyone who calls you out is a troll. Whatever helps you sleep. But yes, I'd appreciate the nevertrumpers to give it a rest.
Its just a fact: Trump was the only candidate that had a chance of winning, so to vote for another candidate was like unto voting for Hillary Clinton.
Running as a Republican Trump would have/has a responsibility to those who voted for him, which means he is obligated to why many usually end up voting Republican, which is that historically Republican candidates have been pro-life (and I will just focus on that one issue. If nothing else is accomplished with Trump being in Office, his position towards this issue will impact many lives, just as Bush did in regards to Partial birth Abortion.
And while I do not view it as sin to have "voted your conscience," what I will say is that voting for Hillary Clinton displays a complete lack of understanding concerning God's Will as taught in Scripture. And how anyone that supports that which is so contrary to the Word of God can even think that even remotely has anything to do with Christianity boggles the mind.
God bless.
And Trump actually spoke to the issue quite eloquently, more so than any recent Republican presidential nominees, and even signaled overtly the justices he would nominate to the courts. For anyone caring about this issue, it was a no-brainer.
BTW, I also can say I don't think voting conscience is a sin, especially for those not very familiar with politics. After all, there are a lot of charlatans posing as conservative Christians that were trying to sway the masses. Many young Christians got caught up on this. I'm thankful it wasn't the norm.
Agree absolutely. These are Doctrinal Issues and the only way the problems can be overcome is through sound Biblical Doctrine. We are battling indoctrination (which is not specific to any group but to most) which is a tough battle. People want to believe what they want to believe despite the Truth. And what has happened for many is that the Truth of God's Word takes a back seat to MSNBC and Fox News. When I tune in any more (which is not often) what comes to mind is Wrestling. Most of it staged. And the reason?
$$$$$$$$$$$$
God bless.
It's not a fact. Voting for another candidate is voting for that candidate.
Why can you guys not understand that not everyone saw it as a binary choice? A vote for a different candidate was just that. It was a vote for a Constitutional conservative and a vote against both Trump and Clinton.
You guys need to get over it and enjoy your win. The honeymoon will be over soon.
Considering some of your comments today, that is difficult to believe.
Christians need to get over it? lol
That is the only position I advocate.
You are missing my point, apparently, unless you honestly think any third party stood a chance. So who was your candidate? Did you vote and if so...for who?
God bless.
It is a fact. If you voted third party and thought you stood a chance perhaps you might think so. But the Facts are that no third party candidate was even a serious contender.
And when it comes to being able to do something with your vote, the only reasonable Christian effort was to vote for the side that stood the best chance of making a mark in the pro-life/choice issue.
And it is my hope that it may turn out better than I was hoping.
God bless.
So a Trump vote is a Christian vote? I hope that I misunderstood what it seems that you imply.
Yes, and it is not anyone's business.
I do understand this. That's the problem. I believe you were wrong to think it was a multiple choice, but don't deny you really believed that. Most Christians understood it wasn't. Only a few didn't, but those few seemed to be the most vocal and trying to sway others from the right choice.
My concern is your discernment. Why didn't you understand this was a binary choice? What and who beguiled you into becoming an asset for the enemy?
Even this statement shows a complete misunderstanding of the Biblical teachings on government.
Sometimes principle dictates that one must choose the losing side.
And this is exactly what the Hillary campaign was hoping for. They wanted Christians to believe this was a multiple choice. They knew most wouldn't fall for it, but they were hoping for a certain number.
You did.
I emphasized my point. You say "You guys need to get over it when the fact is that this is just not that big of a deal in regards to Trump winning. My Savior's Name is Jesus, not Donald Trump. I do not look to Government to solve our problems, but I do think we have a responsibility to be wise with our votes, and personally do not see sitting it out as a good option. As I have said numerous times on this forum and others, if nothing else Trump will have an obligation to conservative voters in regards to abortion. That goes as well concerning Obamacare: what business does the Government have providing contraception and abortions to people, and what rtight does it have to take my money to pay for that kind of thing which violates my religious beliefs?
Can't blame you.
God bless.
Depends on your perspective. If you think having a President who will help in the Pro-Life arena precludes godly principle then we would be in disagreement.
My vote had and has the potential to actually save lives on numerous fronts (i.e. the trauma associated with abortion not to mention babies saved from death). What has your vote accomplished? A clear conscience?
There are a lot of Obama and Clinton supporters who will, I believe, be met with the grim reality that their votes led to more death, when they stand before God.
God bless.
Perhaps, but this is normally not the case when someone else's suffering is at stake. If you are theoretically allowing babies to die, and terror victims to die, I highly doubt God is commending you for your principled stand. Normally these come about when your own safety is at risk. Then a principled stand has some weight, but when others are at risk, we really need to think twice.
Agree.
His voters may think that, but I have the impression that Donald Trump thinks that his obligation is to Donald Trump. I will give him credit for his Mexico City Policy reinstatement.
I think most of us understand what kind of person Trump is, at least on the surface, and sure, Trump has an ego, lol. But, I think most politicians have a rock star mentality and a desire for power. Personally I think there may even be a "feather in the hat" mentality at work as well.
But, I also like to think that his run might just also have to do with the insanity that is going on in our country these days. Even secular people can have a pride in this Country and despite the fact that what makes this country great, and has, is a fear of God and a rule of Law that is founded in Biblical Principles. I think he is going to do a little growing up and I am excited to see what happens. If nothing else I think he will do the same thing he has always done, which is appoint people to run things, and it just looks like to me he has a fair track record in doing that.
So we will wait and see together. I will pray for him. I will maintain my faith in God and if it turns out that Trump is just as much a judgment against America as Obama was, then I can take comfort in not having Hillary Clinton as President, lol.
Okay, have to go, thanks for the discussion Rolfe.
God bless.