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Trump the Friend of Criminals!

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Reynolds

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Donald Trump pardons Jared Kushner's father, Roger Stone and Paul Manafort in new clemency spree | Daily Mail Online

And there are some on here who still support Trump, and want him for another four years as POTUS!

Christians oppose supporting Biden because of abortion, which is a very evil and wicked practice. But this is NOT the only issue in the world! Will these same Christians still support Trump's actions of his "pardons" for CRIMINALS? Why have a justice system, when the President can ignore CRIMES that must be punished, and FREE CRIMINALS? It is time for those who claim to follow the Lord Jesus Christ, to follow the Teachings of the Holy Bible, and not some rather sinful ways, by supporting people who are "freinds of CRIMINALS"!

This says a great deal about Trump!
I wish he would pardon everybody. Empty the Federal prisons. Hillary got away with her crimes. No one else should be in prison.
 

Aaron

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Why would you ask that? Are you looking for a date? [real question]

peace to you
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No. It's just that his wholesale acceptance of Biden must be for some reason, and the only thing I can think of is the wholesale sodomy that a Biden administration will usher in.
 

Baptist Believer

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You’re not even saved. You think repentance is a requirement to follow Christ.
John the Baptist taught it - "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven/God is at hand" (Matthew 3:1-2; Mark 1:14-15)
Jesus taught it - "Repent, for the kingdom of heaven/God is at hand" (Matthew 4:17, Luke 13:5)
Jesus told His disciples to teach it - And they went out and preached that people are to repent. (Mark 6:12)
Jesus commissioned His followers to teach it - "...and that repentance for forgiveness of sins would be proclaimed in His name to all the nations, beginning from Jerusalem." (Luke 24:47)
It was taught at Pentecost - Peter said to them, “Repent, and each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins; and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit." (Acts 2:38, 3:19)
The Gentiles were taught this - When they heard this, they quieted down and glorified God, saying, “Well then, God has also granted to the Gentiles the repentance that leads to life.” (Acts 11:18)
Paul preached it - "So having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now proclaiming to mankind that all people everywhere are to repent..." (Acts 17:30); "solemnly testifying to both Jews and Greeks of repentance toward God and faith in our Lord Jesus Christ." (Acts 20:21); ...continually proclaimed to those in Damascus first, and in Jerusalem, and then all the region of Judea, and even to the Gentiles, that they are to repent and turn to God, performing deeds consistent with repentance. (Acts 26:20)
Paul taught it - ...with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth... (2 Timothy 2:25)

Who are you to reject this clear doctrine?
 
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canadyjd

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No. It's just that his wholesale acceptance of Biden must be for some reason, and the only thing I can think of is the wholesale sodomy that a Biden administration will usher in.
Our Pres doesn’t effect him. He lives in England, where the Queen is cool and he can throws rocks across the pond at our crazy politics.

I don’t think he likes B:den, he just despises Tr:mp.

peace to you
 

JonC

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No. It's just that his wholesale acceptance of Biden must be for some reason, and the only thing I can think of is the wholesale sodomy that a Biden administration will usher in.
The Trump administration has been more friendly to "alternative lifestyles" than the Obama-Biden administration. But I am sure Biden-Harris administration will continue the digression.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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The Trump administration has been more friendly to "alternative lifestyles" than the Obama-Biden administration. But I am sure Biden-Harris administration will continue the digression.
Not sure what Trump's administration tolerated or promoted that would be more extreme than transgenders in the military. Trump-Pence reversed that. What did Obama-Biden reverse? What did they not tolerate? What did they not promote?
 

JonC

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Not sure what Trump's administration tolerated or promoted that would be more extreme than transgenders in the military. Trump-Pence reversed that. What did Obama-Biden reverse? What did they not tolerate? What did they not promote?
What? Like Trumps support if amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include discrimination against serial orientation, or his announcement on Gay Pride day in 2019 to work to globally end the criminalization of homosexuality worldwide?
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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What? Like Trumps support if amending the 1964 Civil Rights Act to include discrimination against serial orientation, or his announcement on Gay Pride day in 2019 to work to globally end the criminalization of homosexuality worldwide?
That first item sounds exactly backward. The Obama-Biden admin added sexuality to the Act; the Trump-Admin tried to reverse it. The Ginsburg SCOTUS proved a major problem.

While sexual orientation was explicitly covered by the DOI’s 2009 workplace discrimination guidelines under the Obama Administration, it has been removed in the 2017 version. Danko says that any worries about its deletion are “a non-story seeking controversy where none exists.”

Trump removes “sexual orientation” from Department of the Interior’s anti-discrimination guidelines

With an amicus brief filed on Friday, the Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to essentially legalize anti-gay discrimination in the workplace. The brief, from Solicitor General Noel Francisco, argues federal prohibitions on employer discrimination do not extend to protect individuals from being fired or otherwise disenfranchised in the workplace because of their sexual orientation.

Trump removes “sexual orientation” from Department of the Interior’s anti-discrimination guidelines

The latter item actually parallels your own observation of pseudo-support by the admin, only not with regard to Christians but LGBTQers.

LGBTQ groups condemn Trump administration’s campaign to end criminalization of homosexuality worldwide as stunt
 
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JonC

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That first item sounds exactly backward. The Obama-Biden admin added sexuality to the Act; the Trump-Admin tried to reverse it. The Ginsburg SCOTUS proved a major problem.

While sexual orientation was explicitly covered by the DOI’s 2009 workplace discrimination guidelines under the Obama Administration, it has been removed in the 2017 version. Danko says that any worries about its deletion are “a non-story seeking controversy where none exists.”

Trump removes “sexual orientation” from Department of the Interior’s anti-discrimination guidelines

With an amicus brief filed on Friday, the Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to essentially legalize anti-gay discrimination in the workplace. The brief, from Solicitor General Noel Francisco, argues federal prohibitions on employer discrimination do not extend to protect individuals from being fired or otherwise disenfranchised in the workplace because of their sexual orientation.

Trump removes “sexual orientation” from Department of the Interior’s anti-discrimination guidelines
Yet Trump did support the addition of sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act regardless to how it sounds (he was outspoken in his support, but yes, this was prior to his presidency). And Trump did make a speech in 2019 for Gay Pride stating that he was seeking to make homosexuality legal worldwide (it is legal here, but he said that he was seeking to decriminalize homosexuality on a global basis).
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Yet Trump did support the addition of sexual orientation to the Civil Rights Act regardless to how it sounds (he was outspoken in his support, but yes, this was prior to his presidency). And Trump did make a speech in 2019 for Gay Pride stating that he was seeking to make homosexuality legal worldwide (it is legal here, but he said that he was seeking to decriminalize homosexuality on a global basis).
I added this above, but will repeat it here.

The latter item actually parallels your own observation of pseudo-support by the admin, only not with regard to Christians but LGBTQers.

LGBTQ groups condemn Trump administration’s campaign to end criminalization of homosexuality worldwide as stunt
 

JonC

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I added this above, but will repeat it here.

The latter item actually parallels your own observation of pseudo-support by the admin, only not with regard to Christians but LGBTQers.

LGBTQ groups condemn Trump administration’s campaign to end criminalization of homosexuality worldwide as stunt
Yes, we can find LGBTQ groups praising Trump and condemning Trump. It could be that President Trump was lying to the American people, but I do not know that that should be assumed. Those groups will align with whatever party holds their political ideology. We see Democrat Christians saying that Trump's pseduo-support for Christianity to be a stunt to gain votes while Republican Christians see Trump as sincere. Democrats see Trump funding black colleges as a stunt to gain votes, Republicans see it...well, probably the same way.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Yes, we can find LGBTQ groups praising Trump and condemning Trump. It could be that President Trump was lying to the American people, but I do not know that that should be assumed. Those groups will align with whatever party holds their political ideology. We see Democrat Christians saying that Trump's pseduo-support for Christianity to be a stunt to gain votes while Republican Christians see Trump as sincere. Democrats see Trump funding black colleges as a stunt to gain votes, Republicans see it...well, probably the same way.
The difference is that you cited campaign rhetoric. I cited what they were actually doling or trying to do.

The truth is that the Obama-Biden admin had already made changes to expand the 1964 CRA. The truth is that the Trump-Pence admin tried to reverse that.

We have major problems created well before Trump got in. We have activist judges all the way up to and on SCOTUS. Blaming such on Trump is ridiculously unfair.

There is no doubt that he has made several verbal concessions to the LGBTQers. Most Americans are not calling for their death in the US or abroad, or even curtailing basic rights. That includes most all Christians.
 

JonC

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The difference is that you cited campaign rhetoric. I cited what they were actually doling or trying to do.

The truth is that the Obama-Biden admin had already made changes to expand the 1964 CRA. The truth is that the Trump-Pence admin tried to reverse that.

We have major problems created well before Trump got in. We have activist judges all the way up to and on SCOTUS. Blaming such on Trump is ridiculously unfair.

There is no doubt that he has made several verbal concessions to the LGBTQers. Most Americans are not calling for their death in the US or abroad, or even curtailing basic rights. That includes most all Christians.
Except I am speaking of what President Trump said. Granted, politics....like business....can involve saying things one does not mean. But that does not change what was said. He could have been lying to gain support for the Presidency and then in 2019 lying to the American people to gain support for re-election. Or he could have meant what he said.
 

Aaron

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Our Pres doesn’t effect him. He lives in England, where the Queen is cool and he can throws rocks across the pond at our crazy politics.

I don’t think he likes B:den, he just despises Tr:mp.

peace to you
There is still a reason he loves Biden and hates Trump, and I can think of only one.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Except I am speaking of what President Trump said. Granted, politics....like business....can involve saying things one does not mean. But that does not change what was said. He could have been lying to gain support for the Presidency and then in 2019 lying to the American people to gain support for re-election. Or he could have meant what he said.
OK, but I was responding to the notion that, “The Trump administration has been more friendly to "alternative lifestyles" than the Obama-Biden administration.” I find that to be untrue.

Perhaps Trump’s personality is naturally friendlier and more diplomatic than either Obama’s or Biden’s. Certainly he does not have the utter disdain toward voters displayed by either of them, or by the Dems and their MSM in general, who seem fueled by hate and rage, which they instigate at every turn. But Trump admin policies have not been friendlier to the LGBTQer’s agenda.

The Trump administration has been more friendly to "alternative lifestyles" than the Obama-Biden administration. But I am sure Biden-Harris administration will continue the digression.
 
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