Here we go with Obama again.....just give it a rest ....its lame at this point.
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Trump too conservative for the modern Church?
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Here we go with Obama again.....just give it a rest ....its lame at this point.
Thank you.
Ever since I was in high school I have been calling out the moral relativism that has been creeping into the American Church. The election of Trump just showed how far it has crept.
You are the poster child for moral relativism.
Coming from you I'll take that as a complement:
So we have learned according to you small Constitution Government is liberal.
Standing up for God's standards is Smug
and Trusting in the Power of the Gospel to change the World is moral relativism.
And this is what happens when one is moral relativistic. they can embrace all kinds of alternative facts and words cease having any real meaning. Thanks for illustrating that so well. I will add your liberal and moral relativism card to my pile of hate and racist cards one gets when winning an argument.
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You forgot turning your back on the unborn.
Trump is pro life, you are pro abortion. I would think his view is far less relativistic.
How does one tell when people lose a debate? They no longer rely on the strength of their arguments and revert to making it personal.
When they resort to trolling every post.
yes because voting for a prolife candidate and doing different things in my community to help the unborn, working toward saving some snowflake unborn babies and sharing the transformative Gospel to a lost and dying world is turning my back on the unborn. You have a strange definitions of turning ones back on unborn.
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Anyone who has an ounce of sense and has paid attention knows that this is patently false.
Is this a confession?
You know when you have to lie about someone, your argument is weak.
I don't even think hormonal birth control should be legal, which even I know is on the far right of pro-life thinking. Dealing with infertiltiy caused me and my husband to look at the world of ART and make some gut wrenching decisions including that we would never even consider IVF because it creates more babies than I could carry, and as we believe that life begins at conception. That means we may never have children of our own, but we could do no different with our pro-life stance. We are in the beginning process of looking to adopt frozen embryos left over from other people's IVF because we feel so strongly that those are human beings in a weird limbo that technology has created. We figure that no matter what happens after they are transferred its a win because they will be free from that crazy limbo.
So thank you again for proving my thoughts about Trump Supporters, you have never failed in that regards. When you are ready to apologies for lying about me I'll be right here but as of now the entire forum can see the truth about you and how you post. I forgive you for the lie even if you never apologies for it because that is also God's standard.
I agree. You said Trump was not pro life. You said Trump supported baby killing. These are lies showing the weakness of your argument.
I said you turned you back on the unborn by not voting for the only viable pro life candidate. This is the truth. This is strength.
Again, I have no idea why Zaac is banned (and he definitely deserved it) and Calminian gets to rampage through the forums calling people pro-abortion and liberals all day simply because he is unable to sustain an intelligent argument.
He's banned because he did nothing but troll. You want me banned because I have a different opinion that you. You and Blessed Wife are accusing Trump of being pro choice. I am defending Trump and setting the record straight. Why should I be banned for that?
You said that I am pro-abortion which everyone on here knows is a all out lie. That lie shows the weakness of your moral relativist position.
Here is the Truth: Trump praised Baby Killing Planned Parenthood for the whole world to see.
I'm not the only pro-lifer that has a huge problem with that:
By the way the fact that you have a problem with me calling out Planned Parenthood for their baby killing is very ironic.
Life Action News
http://liveactionnews.org/donald-trump-planned-parenthood-does-do-wonderful-things/
Susan B Anthony List:
https://www.sba-list.org/newsroom/p...arenthood-does-not-provide-comprehensive-heal
LifeNews
http://www.lifenews.com/2016/03/14/...s-outweighs-any-good-planned-parenthood-does/
With those sites on my side I'm in good company.
Here is some more truth:
Overturning Roe v Wade will not save unborn babies. What it does it turn that decision back to the states. NY California and other liberal states will continue to allow the murder of babies. States like North and South Dakota will get rid of their one remaining abortion center, but women in those states will still be free to go to another state. Now don't misunderstand me I'm all for it being overturned as it makes local efforts to help unborn easier but I'm also not holding my breath waiting for the SCOTUS to do anything (especially given this quote from Gorsuch "“it is not sufficient to overturn a long-established precedent for five current judges to believe a previous decision was wrongly decided.”) I'm being active now, working with women around me as that is how lives both born and unborn are saved. As the 5 states that only have 1 abortion center shows that when you have a strong local pro-life group you can work around Roe v. Wade. Roe v. Wade is not an excuse to wring your hands and say nothing can be done until its overturned. That is what Crisis Pregnancy centers are for. And there is nothing stopping anyone from sharing the gospel with a women looking to kill her baby as that is where the ultimate power lies.
So what are you doing in your local community to help the unborn? Or have you outsourced your responsibility to DC?
You are a liar. He specifically said he would defund them if they didn't stop abortions. You know this.
And you turned your back on the unborn and tried to prevent Trump from appointing a conservative nominee with your protest vote.
Trump fought for life, you fought against it. That is the truth!
The pro-life position is that they be defunded period amen no caveat needed. (If you had looked at the links I posted you would know this) There is no need for baby killing Planned Parenthood as there are thousands of clinics nation wide to help women that don't kill babies at all. Planned Parenthood is evil and has been from the very beginning with Margaret Sanger.
I voted for a Pro-Life Candidate and the whole forum knows that, so your continued falsehood is noted by everyone.
Trump fought for himself, I fought for Biblical Standards. That is truth. Your attacks and lies about me only further illustrate that truth.
Again, where was th
Trump stated that while they did do some decent things, the fact of the abortions performed by them would mean should be defunded!
Trump ran on defunding Planned Parenthood. You helped Planned Parenthood by opposing Trump.
The pro life position is voting for the pro life candidate who can win. Period, no caveat.
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