You lived in NJ. So tell me, was there blatant racism and constant caterwauling about political issues? There is always some but there was jobs and prosperity ,,, people didn’t have time to gripe and complain.
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Trump train derails PC train
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Thanks, what you reference let’s me know that any currency currently in service, was initiated in 1928-to the present. That is perpetuity for the life of those bills. NONE have changed since then. The others listed are not in use. We did have the Susan B Anthony coin for awhile until it caused too many problems being sized like a quarter, but we’re not talking about coins here.
Yeah, my Grandpa was a died in the wool democrat. Everyone at his Baptist church were democrats. They were all members of the klan, & if not for my Grandmother, he would have been too. Pressure was always there to join the brotherhood. Was Fred Trump a democrat? That’s the first thing I would ask before trying to make my case on it. Or maybe you just wanted another Trump attack, more likely.
Patriotism is not something that you wear well when arguing to change everything to make up for our bad selves. All your hero’s are the ones who say we were never that great, so wear that!
I wasn't aware of it when I lived there (1976-2006). But since then I've had an experience that showed me I simply wasn't aware of what was really going on. Maybe things have changed recently with Trump's influence.
A good friend of mine (black) who's in his late 60's now used to be a multi-millionaire. He had a college degree and a position with Disney that involved traveling the world as a kind of ambassador for the company. He also had a great baritone voice. He sang with various opera companies including the Met and had his own solo performance at Carnegie Hall. But then one day he had a terrible accident, falling off a stage backwards onto a concrete floor. He was in a comma for 6 months and when he woke up he was partially paralyzed. He found out that his wife had committed suicide because she didn't believe he would ever come out of the comma.
Since then he's had about $7M worth of surgery just to keep him alive. After a while his Disney insurance cut him off. He then went on Medicaid Disability. His apartment was subsidized and his medical bills taken care of. He can only get around using a motorized wheel chair. His example is just one reason I get mad about people talking about cutting off "welfare bums." This man is a former rich man who had travelled the world and sung at the highest levels. I've heard a recording of his Carnegie Hall appearance and I think he was just a notch below the great Christian opera singer Jerome Hines on this great song:
About a year ago, a Medicaid supported woman (white) took my friend to the grocery in the day time. He went in and she stayed in the car. When he came out she demanded money (maybe $50) to take him home. He refused and she staged a fake assault and called the police. he also called the police. This was at the intersection of Long Branch (largely somewhat poor with a large black population and West Long Branch, a much richer area. She called the WLB police and he called the LB police. They both arrived on the scene.The woman claimed he assaulted her and pulled a gun on her. He was physically unable to assault her. The police searched and found no gun. Still he was charged.
To make a long story shorter, he obtained an attorney and assigned a court date. On that day there was a blizzard on the NJ shore. The courthouse was closed. Still, the judge blamed him for not showing up and threatened him with additional charges. He was assigned another court date. I had found out about this and sent him some money for his defense. he was told he couldn't use video footage of the supposed crime from the store's surveillance camera. Why? I don't know. My brother and I along with his doctor wrote character reference letters to the court. They were all read aloud during the trial. The woman didn't show up. The judge told him that IF HE COULDN'T PROVE HIMSELF INNOCENT he would go to prison for a long time! He then remarked that "they make fish bait out of people like you in prison!
The judge dismissed all charges. A cheer went up in the court room and the court stenographer exclaimed "hallelujah!" This judge was not known for leniency in cases like these. Therefore, I KNOW for a fact there are two kinds of justice in America, one for white persons especially rich ones and one for poor blacks. Both my brother and I feel very good about helping our poor black friend get justice.
Just take a good look atg reality. True patriots want us to be the best. Others want to hide things in our past.
Of course you are referring to things like pulling down statues of Confederate heroes are you not????
That’s dyed in the wool. For some reason there is no edit in tools, this has happened before where it only has report the post in tools. Maybe if I want to report myself I guess.
GoodTidings
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And so all of that was because he was black??? I doubt it. I can tell you stories of white people who get maligned unfairly.
Trump has been under assault for over two years for something he never did and he's a rich white guy. He has been slandered at every turn for crimes for which the government tried to frame him and stage a third-world styled coup. His family has been harassed over this stuff as well. All of it based on false accusations.
Your party falsely condemned, slandered another rich white guy, named Brett Kavanaugh for something he didn't do. They created a circus over a woman's allegation that he sexually assaulted her despite neither her nor anyone else being able to corroborate one shred of her allegations. A prosecuting attorney that questioned her at the hearing said that her allegations wouldn't stand up in a court of law. But your leftist heroes went right on continuing to slander him for crimes for which there no evidence at all. He was forced into a position of proving his innocence, as well. Thanks to them, his life will never be same again, and his family's life will be forever altered.
Jussie Smollet faked a hate crime saying that two white guys in read MAGA hats assaulted him. It turns out that the crime never happened. But what if the police had found to white men wearing MAGA hats at some point and Smollet had said, "yep, that's them?" Two innocent white men would have been charged for a crime that never happened. The Liberal media had already bought into the fake story because they will buy anything if it smears Trump, before knowing if it is true or not. Two innocent people would have likely gone to jail for a fake hate crime because the victim postured the hate crime as committed by two white Trump supporters.
So you can spare us the notion that black people face a different system of justice. That is just ridiculous. The best place in the world to be black in the US. White people face injustice from the government get falsely accused of things they never did, as well.
GoodTidings
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No one really cares whose portrait is on our paper money. Black people spend the money just fine. The American dream is alive and well and black people enjoy it too. The richest woman in America for the longest time has been Oprah Winfrey. White people elected a black president to landslide victories, twice. Some of the most wealthiest and successful entertainers, actors/actresses, musicians/singers have been black. We have black business owners, black doctors, lawyers, politicians and officers in every branch of the military. The highest ranking member of the US Army, at one time, was a black man named Colin Powell.
Black people, if they are willing to put in the work can and have achieved success and the American dream. They are not being held back by anyone other than themselves. America isn't perfect, but the "heart and soul" of America has been pretty good to people of every race for quite some time.
The Left wants us to go backwards. They are opposed to the American dream. Right now, everyone running against Trump wants to take us down the socialism path. They want to erode our Constitution, and set up a new system of government that will eventually lead us into the same Stalinist, fascist, socialist/communistic society that once existed in the Soviet Union.
The Left is the enemy of the American dream, because the Left hates America and supports radical, racist America-hating groups like Antifa and Black Lives Matter. The Left promotes racist ideologies like "white privilege" and use "racism" as their all-purpose weapon to shut down any opinions they don't like. The Left demonizes as "hate" anything they don't like. "Racism" and "hate" both lose their meaning when they are used as socio-political weapons to shut down free speech and intimidate people into silence.
If we want to see the American dream thrive we need to reform the Democrat party. Right now, we are seeing Communism, socialism and fascism infiltrating American society in the name of "Liberalism." And the Democrat party of today is NOT the party of Truman or Kennedy. That party is history. We need a new Democrat party that actually loves America and won't support Communism/socialism and the other crazy, insane ideas that are coming from the Left today.
The modern Democrat party promotes anti-American, anti-Christian values. Christian, pro-family values have been the bedrock of American society for years and they work. But the Left wants to destroy all of that. The whole push for LGBT rights is an attack on the family. Abortion (infanticide) is an attack on the family. Gay marriage is an attack on the family. The enemy is trying to destroy the family, God's first institution in order to destroy the foundation of our country.
The Left is the enemy of American dream and the enemy of America. Sometimes the enemy from within is far more dangerous than they enemy outside the gates.
I didn't say only black people don't get justice in America. Poor people also are mistreated. Go ahead. I'd like to hear your examples.
The American dream died due to inequality for everyone. The US has less opportunity for upward mobility than most if not all other industrialized nations.
GoodTidings
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That is not true. The US has equality of opportunity, but not equality of outcome and a lot of people get those two things confused.
I don't know anyone that can't get grants and loans and go to college. Anyone who wants to better themselves and will put out the work, can do it. What some people want, is for stuff to be handed to them without them having to earn it.
I was the last person anyone thought would go to college. I now have a Bachelors and a Masters. I had to sacrifice a lot, but I made it. And if I can do it, anyone can do it.
There are more jobs waiting for people than there are people to fill them. And I mean good paying jobs that offer on-the-job training and offer as much as $60,000 a year and full benefits. Yes, they are hard, sweaty jobs and you have put up with weather and sore muscles, and you will get dirty and sweat through your shirt, but the jobs are there.
There are a lot of jobs people could do that pay very good salaries, but they are hard, sometimes, require over-time, but they are there for anyone willing to take them.
You really do not know what you're talking about.
GoodTidings
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I gave you two examples of white people who have been mistreated in public, who everyone on your side has been trying to destroy over false allegations and outright lies.
look at the current data. I did well as well, got an MS in Eng. But that chance is disappearing along with the middle class.
Reference?
GoodTidings
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You can be living on a park bench and still get into school or get trained on a job. But you have to do have to be willing to work hard.
As for the middle class disappearing...
According to the Wall Street Journal:
"The latest piece of evidence comes from economist Stephen Rose of the Urban Institute, who finds in new research that the upper middle class in the U.S. is larger and richer than it’s ever been. He finds the upper middle class has expanded from about 12% of the population in 1979 to a new record of nearly 30% as of 2014.
'Any discussion of inequality that is limited to the 1% misses a lot of the picture because it ignores the large inequality between the growing upper middle class and the middle and lower middle classes,' said Mr. Rose. The Urban Institute is a nonpartisan policy research group." Not Just the 1%: The Upper Middle Class Is Larger and Richer Than Ever
So the middle class is disappearing, but not because they are going into poverty, but because they are becoming too wealthy to be considered middle class.
You're talking about the upper middle class. Here is a definition:
Upper middle class - Wikipedia
In academic models, the term "upper middle class" applies to highly-educated, salaried professionals whose work is largely self-directed. Many have postgraduate degrees, with educational attainment serving as the main distinguishing feature of this class. Household incomes commonly may exceed $100,000, with some smaller one-income earners earning incomes in the high five figures.[5] Typical professions for this class include lawyers, physicians, physician assistants, military officers, psychologists, nurse practitioners, certified public accountants, pharmacists, optometrists, financial planners, editors, dentists, engineers, professors, architects, school principals, urban planners, civil service executives, and civilian contractors.[3][6]
Yes, they're doing OK but not relative to the top 1%. The upper middle class income is about $100,000 or so. That certainly puts them in the top 10% but most income gains have gone to the top 1% with an income of about $400,000.
The 1 pct Pocketed 85 pct of Post-Recession Income Growth
The 1% Pocketed 85% of Post-Recession Income Growth
What I always considered to be the middle class is the middle group lower than this group. In the 50's and 60's these were the union factory workers. They are rapidly drifting down towards poverty.
Their wages haven't grown at all in 40 years in real (inflation adjusted) terms.
GoodTidings
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Yeah, but everyone on your side wants to hide the past by taking down statues and removing the names of founding fathers from buildings, and stop teaching American history in schools. Your side hates America and America's past and it hates America's Christian past.
We on the other hand are the true patriots who don't want those aspects of our history erased or covered up. Your side has become very anti-American and very anti-Christian and re-labels "patriots" as Nazis, white supremacists, white nationalists, racists and any other derogatory terms. Why do you side with the anti-America, pro-socialist crowd?
When will you learn to talk about individuals rather than sides? I've always considered my self to be a Southerner. My mother was a member of the UDC and won a poetry contest sponsored by them. But, growing up in KY, I had ancestors who fought and died on both sides. I always admired Gen. Robert E, Lee but I've come to realize that the South was really fighting for slavery and I don't support that. BTW, the SBC did not renounce their position on slavery until the 1990's. That seems a bit late to me.
I admire and support our founders.They were not all Christians. In fact Jefferson constructed his own "bible" by cutting out everything miraculous. He liked the moral creed but did not believe in the divinity of Christ. He was a deist meaning he believed in a hazy concept of god which was not the Christian God.