Trump: U.S. to withdraw from Paris climate pact, calls it 'unfair' for America

[TCassidy]

best estimates predict

Facts. Measurable facts. I posted actual facts. Measured facts. You post "best estimates predict."

Here is something I found very interesting. Peer reviewed article.

Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

 

[Rolfe]

Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

 

[rsr]

From the same source:
There Probably Won't Be A “Mini Ice Age” In 15 Years
There Probably Won't Be A “Mini Ice Age” In 15 Years

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

Look carefully through the report instead of cherry picking one line and you will see that is not the definitive answer.

Crabby.. you know Trump has flood insurance so he hopes it will flood

 

[Bro. Curtis]

Four of the top five coal companies have declared bankruptcy including Peabody Coal. Did you have a lot of money in them? If you did you lost a huge amount. I just retired after a 40 year career as an engineer with an MS in Engineering. What do you know about new technologies? probably NOTHING but you still claim to be an expert like Trump himself.

So yer a retired engineer with an MS in engineering. What discipline, may I ask ?

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Happy]

So let's abolish laws then! Let's be anarchic. The law against murder doesn't stop murder so let's just make murder legal.

That's the 'reasoning' you've put forward up there. It's ludicrous.

Those are your words, not mine.

And IF you think LAWS stop murder, you are mistaken, because there are plenty of laws AGAINST murdering, and there are plenty of murders being committed.

Laws can and does make murder illegal. Penalty Laws can and do provide a consequence for murder, that MAY deter a person from being willing to take the RISK of committing murder AND being caught, AND being punished with the lawful consequence.

But to abolish laws AS YOU SAY, is total nonsense.

 

[Reynolds]

Those are your words, not mine.

And IF you think LAWS stop murder, you are mistaken, because there are plenty of laws AGAINST murdering, and there are plenty of murders being committed.

Laws can and does make murder illegal. Penalty Laws can and do provide a consequence for murder, that MAY deter a person from being willing to take the RISK of committing murder AND being caught, AND being punished with the lawful consequence.

But to abolish laws AS YOU SAY, is total nonsense.

I can guarantee you laws stop murder. If murder were not illegal I can 100% guarantee you I would have killed two people about 30 years ago.

 

[Happy]

2016 was the year solar panels finally became cheaper than fossil fuels. Just wait for 2017

Solar and wind is now the same price or cheaper than new fossil fuel capacity in more than 30 countries, the WEF reported in December (pdf). As prices for solar and wind power continue their precipitous fall, two-thirds of all nations will reach the point known as “grid parity” within a few years, even without subsidies. “Renewable energy has reached a tipping point,” Michael Drexler, who leads infrastructure and development investing at the WEF, said in a statement. “It is not only a commercially viable option, but an outright compelling investment opportunity with long-term, stable, inflation-protected returns.”

In 2016, solar-panel energy finally became cheaper than fossil fuels. Just wait for 2017.

It's 2017 now, so should I presume you have already loaded up your roof with solar panels?
IF not, Why not?
If so, how's that cheap change working out for you?

Did you do your homework, of how long the panels last, how much energy is lost via heat, how many panels it requires to meet the needs of powering your home, according to your families needs AND part of the country you reside in AND how intense or expensive it is to remove and reinstall the panels when your roof needs replacing?

MIT School of Engineering | » How many solar panels do I need on my house to become energy independent?

 

[Happy]

I can guarantee you laws stop murder. If murder were not illegal I can 100% guarantee you I would have killed two people about 30 years ago.

LOL ~ The Law does not stop murder. The fear of getting caught and the penalty the law provides, was not a risk you were willing to take. Many others ARE willing to take the risk of not getting caught, and WHY murders continue to occur every single day, even when it is statutorily illegal.

 

[Reynolds]

LOL ~ The Law does not stop murder. The fear of getting caught and the penalty the law provides, was not a risk you were willing to take. Many others ARE willing to take the risk of not getting caught, and WHY murders continue to occur every single day, even when it is statutorily illegal.

Without the law, there would be no penalty. You are now merely arguing semantics.

 

[TCassidy]

From the same source:
There Probably Won't Be A “Mini Ice Age” In 15 Years
There Probably Won't Be A “Mini Ice Age” In 15 Years

Not the same source. Both articles quoted Dr. Zharkova's statements, but the one I posted was from a respected Astronomy journal and the one you posted is from a pop science page with a profane name which should never be spoken by a child of God.

And the article you posted just said there won't be an ice age like Hollywood depicts, which was never claimed by Dr. Zharkova. She clearly said it would be a "mini" ice age with significantly cooler weather but nobody ever claimed there would be severe glaciation.

And, in fact, even in the article you posted Dr. Zharkova says "We didn't mention anything about the weather change, but I would have to agree that possibly you can expect it,” she informed [name of web page censored].

 

[Matt Black]

Those are your words, not mine.

And IF you think LAWS stop murder, you are mistaken, because there are plenty of laws AGAINST murdering, and there are plenty of murders being committed.

Laws can and does make murder illegal. Penalty Laws can and do provide a consequence for murder, that MAY deter a person from being willing to take the RISK of committing murder AND being caught, AND being punished with the lawful consequence.

But to abolish laws AS YOU SAY, is total nonsense.

 

[Matt Black]

Now you are just being ridiculous. Of course laws stop crimes like murder being committed. You have repeatedly 'argued' pathetic semantics with me over the last few pages: selfishness, sacrifice and now laws.

 

[Happy]

Without the law, there would be no penalty. You are now merely arguing semantics.

I'm just stating facts. The penalty LAW does not stop one from committing a crime. It is FEAR of being caught and convicted.

Because it does not matter WHAT anyone does or does not do; It is ALWAYS based on FEAR or DESIRE, regardless of how many laws are written.

 

[Happy]

Now you are just being ridiculous. Of course laws stop crimes like murder being committed. You have repeatedly 'argued' pathetic semantics with me over the last few pages: selfishness, sacrifice and now laws.

So what?
You have repeatedly "argued" your opinion, void of facts, but not void of name calling and derogatory accusations.

 

[Happy]

Crabby.. you know Trump has flood insurance so he hopes it will flood

 

[Reynolds]

I'm just stating facts. The penalty LAW does not stop one from committing a crime. It is FEAR of being caught and convicted.

Because it does not matter WHAT anyone does or does not do; It is ALWAYS based on FEAR or DESIRE, regardless of how many laws are written.

The law places that fear. The law is the foundation of that fear.

 

[carpro]

Ther's an old saying that "laws are made to be broken".

A "law" will not stop a crime, any crime, from being committed. If it would., our prisons would be empty,

It's a ridiculous argument.

 

[FollowTheWay]

Facts. Measurable facts. I posted actual facts. Measured facts. You post "best estimates predict."

Here is something I found very interesting. Peer reviewed article.

Diminishing solar activity may bring new Ice Age by 2030 – Astronomy Now

This is where my FACTS came from.


The Climate Institute has been in a unique position to inform key decision-makers, heighten international awareness of climate change, and identify practical ways of achieving significant emissions reductions. This has been done through several different media including symposia, conferences, roundtables, and special briefings. These have been carried out not only in the U.S., Canada, Australia, Japan and Europe but also in as many as 30 developing countries providing expert advice at ministerial and heads of state briefings and at sessions with business executives and private citizens.

The Climate Institute has achieved this by tapping into its vast network of experts and alliances in the US and the international community. In all its efforts, the Institute strives to be a source of objective, reliable information. The Institute has distinguished itself as a world leader in promoting global climate change mitigation with practical and cooperative approaches.

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You didn't provide a source (any source) for your uninformed guesses.