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Trump: U.S. to withdraw from Paris climate pact, calls it 'unfair' for America

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FollowTheWay

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So yer a retired engineer with an MS in engineering. What discipline, may I ask ?
I started in Aerospace Engineering working for a NASA contractor in 1972 on the Space Shuttle and Skylab and then got a MS degree in Operations Research from Stanford. That led to a job with Bell Labs (before) divestiture) which was then considered to be the foremost research lab in the world. I worked in the areas of network design, new service design and strategic planning. I was a systems engineer which involved synthesizing all aspects of a new problem and coming up with a solution. This taught me how to investigate new things and solve problems. I came up with the idea for computerized maps in cars updated via satellites (GPS) in 1978 but our patent rights were signed away to AT&T when we joined the labs unfortunately. I went on to Bellcore, AT&T Labs and AT&T Mobility. The last 10 years of my career I worked on VoIP networks and IP networking.
 
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FollowTheWay

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It's 2017 now, so should I presume you have already loaded up your roof with solar panels?
IF not, Why not?
If so, how's that cheap change working out for you?

Did you do your homework, of how long the panels last, how much energy is lost via heat, how many panels it requires to meet the needs of powering your home, according to your families needs AND part of the country you reside in AND how intense or expensive it is to remove and reinstall the panels when your roof needs replacing?

MIT School of Engineering | » How many solar panels do I need on my house to become energy independent?

:)
Current thinking is that we will start with large solar farms with the power saved by batteries. Solar cell efficiency is constantly improving until the cost is about the same as power from coal fired power plants The challenge now is to improve batteries. That's actually the major objective of Elon Musk of Tesla not electric cars.

Tesla’s solar panel roof: solar glass tiles are the new solar shingles
Tesla's Solar Roof 2017: Solar Shingles Reimagined | EnergySage


If you’ve found it difficult to stay up to date on the future of Tesla Motors and SolarCity in recent weeks, you are not alone. Numerous industries (solar, electric vehicles, and ridesharing, to name a few) worldwide are starting to feel the impact of a merger that could significantly alter growth plans for manufacturers and executives across the globe. Now the concept of an integrated solar glass shingle – the Tesla solar tile – is on everyone’s mind.

We had already heard about Tesla’s plans for total clean energy integration – a one step carbon reduction process that involves pairing solar panels with your Tesla electric vehicle. Now for the latest: thanks to a surprise appearance of Chairman Elon Musk in SolarCity’s 2nd quarter earnings call that lead to a highly anticipated Tesla solar roofing product launch at the end of October, we’ve now seen the future of PV roofing and the future of Tesla. One thing is certain: building integrated photovoltaics (BIPV) are going to be a part of Tesla Motors – or should we say Tesla Energy’s – future.



 
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Matt Black

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So what?
You have repeatedly "argued" your opinion, void of facts, but not void of name calling and derogatory accusations.
Are you seriously asserting that if murder were legalised tomorrow, the murder rate would stay the same?

Seriously??!
 

Happy

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The law places that fear. The law is the foundation of that fear.

My point is; A written Statue can not stop crime.
BTW ~ My posts do not stand as a promotion against your profession in any way, shape or form.
My son is an Arson Investigator in one of the largest cities in America.
That notifies you, he earned his Badge as a firefighter and earned his Badge as a police officer....
So, I am very familiar with the danger and concern involved with such professions and I do hold such professions in high regard.
 

Happy

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Are you seriously asserting that if murder were legalised tomorrow, the murder rate would stay the same?

Seriously??!

LOL Seriously Matt?

You are attempting to dump your words on me, and then challenge them?

Get a clue. I said no such thing!
 

Happy

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Current thinking is that we will start with large solar farms with the power saved by batteries. Solar cell efficiency is constantly improving until the cost is about the same as power from coal fired power plants The challenge now is to improve batteries. That's actually the major objective of Elon Musk of Tesla not electric cars.

Tesla’s solar panel roof: solar glass tiles are the new solar shingles
Tesla's Solar Roof 2017: Solar Shingles Reimagined | EnergySage


If you’ve found it difficult to stay up to date on the future of Tesla Motors and SolarCity in recent weeks, you are not alone. Numerous industries (solar, electric vehicles, and ridesharing, to name a few) worldwide are starting to feel the impact of a merger that could significantly alter growth plans for manufacturers and executives across the globe. Now the concept of an integrated solar glass shingle – the Tesla solar tile – is on everyone’s mind.

We had already heard about Tesla’s plans for total clean energy integration – a one step carbon reduction process that involves pairing solar panels with your Tesla electric vehicle. Now for the latest: thanks to a surprise appearance of Chairman Elon Musk in SolarCity’s 2nd quarter earnings call that lead to a highly anticipated Tesla solar roofing product launch at the end of October, we’ve now seen the future of PV roofing and the future of Tesla. One thing is certain: building integrated photovoltaics (BIPV) are going to be a part of Tesla Motors – or should we say Tesla Energy’s – future.
Current thinking is that we will start with large solar farms with the power saved by batteries. Solar cell efficiency is constantly improving until the cost is about the same as power from coal fired power plants The challenge now is to improve batteries. That's actually the major objective of Elon Musk of Tesla not electric cars.

Tesla’s solar panel roof: solar glass tiles are the new solar shingles
Tesla's Solar Roof 2017: Solar Shingles Reimagined | EnergySage


"Current thinking is that we will start with large solar farms with the power saved by batteries. Solar cell efficiency is constantly improving until the cost is about the same as power from coal fired power plants The challenge now is to improve batteries. That's actually the major objective of Elon Musk of Tesla not electric cars."


Awesome ~ that a Company has a development and is promoting and marketing their product.
Awesome ~ that such Company has a target in mind to market to.
Awesome ~ that such Company has incorporated all the "key" words in their marketing.
....................ie; current energy sources BAD, their source GOOD, "future", "cheap", "affordable", "available".

Expanded marketing ~ getting the PUBLIC to be "activists / lobbyists" to promote their product.

NEVER Awesome ~ Lobbyists sleeping with the government to enact legislation to destroy their competition.

Not Awesome ~ a farm without trees, domestic or wild life.


Solar farm ^
By Associated Press and Snejana Farberov For Dailymail.com




Wind farm ^
Wind turbines dot the landscape in Mojave, Calif. The recent extension of federal tax credits is expected to give the wind and solar energy industries a big boost.

Irfan Khan/LA Times via Getty Images

New "farms" eye pleasing eh? Actually in person, they look pretty creepy IMO.

And REMEMBER "CABLE TV" marketing....it's PAY TV, but NO COMMERCIALS! LOL
 

Matt Black

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LOL Seriously Matt?

You are attempting to dump your words on me, and then challenge them?

Get a clue. I said no such thing!
So clarify your position then: does the fact that murder is illegal have an effect on the murder rate - yes or no?
 
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