Government appropriation law spells it out. Not the spending bill.
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Trump wants to build the wall with Military funds
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Government appropriation law spells it out. Not the spending bill.
That was a freebie.
Yes.
{quote]Is there language that suggests it cannot be used for any type of border walls, construction etc.?[/quote]
Yes.
I gave you the link to the bill. Use the search feature in your browser (probably CNTL-F) using the word "defense" and any other words you find appropriate. You will find out what EVERYONE here has been saying is true.
But so far, you have refused to lift a finger to check for yourself. I have no great expectations that you will do it.
Doing just fine thanks. Only one person is arguing from ignorance in here and that is you. I’ve treated you with respect in here and have taken the time to try and explain how government contracting works. Nothing I have said is liberalism. You are razor thin skinned and hyper protective of all things Trump. If you want to engage again about this like an adult then would be happy to discuss further.
"sources say", "from those familiar with the matter", "a spokesperson says" are all tip-offs that you're dealing with a leaker. This was probably deliberately leaked, like a trial balloon to see how the idea went over. Using DoD money wasn't the only idea on how to pay for this wall presented.
Well, there's no way I even want to read all of that omnibus bill but the terms "planned parenthood" and "wall" aren't referenced to once and that is because PP gets the money through Medicaid and "family planning" grants. Now it seems very specific about the border fence, what can go where when and now.
I really doubt Trump will push this, how does doing so NOT violate:
31 U.S.C. 1301 Application
Supposedly, Trump floated the idea by Paul Ryan (who is a recent victim of fake news himself), and Ryan said nothing - Trump has to take this idea back to Congress and it would fail there, Some say he should declare a "national emergency" under the National Emergencies Act, but THAT would be a good case for a lawsuit and it's too jackboot dictator besides.
Well, there's no way I even want to read all of that omnibus bill but the terms "planned parenthood" and "wall" aren't referenced to once and that is because PP gets the money through Medicaid and "family planning" grants. Now it seems very specific about the border fence, what can go where when and now.
I really doubt Trump will push this, how does doing so NOT violate:
31 U.S.C. 1301 Application
Supposedly, Trump floated the idea by Paul Ryan (who is a recent victim of fake news himself), and Ryan said nothing - Trump has to take this idea back to Congress and it would fail there, Some say he should declare a "national emergency" under the National Emergencies Act, but THAT would be a good case for a lawsuit and it's too jackboot dictator besides.
Can you quote the part in the military portion of the bill that prohibits wall building?
It's all going to come down to the language in the bill. If the wall can be counted as a military necessity, I can't see how Trump can be stopped, unless the military spending is super specific in every area.
And I don't think Trump will worry about a lawsuit. Build the wall and then work out the rest later. Once it's up it's up.
The question isn't is there anything in the military portion of the bill prohibiting wall building. This is the better question. Are there funds that can be easily freed up for wall building solely on a presidential order.
Since there are no undesignated military funds, it is obvious that President Trump cannot build a wall without approval of Congress.
It doesn’t even come close to working that way. It’s not about language it’s about the end user. You can’t pencil whip a DD1391 and hide it. It is a CONGRESSIONALLY approved budgetary document. The wall is not a military project because it is not for use by the DoD. It is a Homeland Security project. The GAO would be all this easily.
No one is really even proposing this except for Trumps via tweet. This has no legs and is going nowhere. The wall may happen someday but it isn’t coming from the DoD. The true vision for the wall may have very well died with the spending bill.
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Okay, I'll go with that. Fair enough. I would think that would come down to how specifically spending is designated in the military portion. In the border fence portion it's very specific what can be built and what can't.
Bingo, yes it is. People are dying.
That is way too vague to gain traction and again, doesn’t let you access military funding. Even National Emergencies don’t let you violate statuatory acquisition requirements.
If only this was answered already in this thread.
175 lives lost daily to the opioids is not vague. An invasion of of 20 million foreigners is not vague. It's an emergency. If it weren't the President wouldn't have even mentioned it.
He could have declared it an emergency a long time ago. If it were truly an emergency then why hasn’t he declared it yet? We both know he won’t. Because it isn’t. It’s a tactic for the wall. One that has no legs. It’s now only being considered an emergency because he flubbed the bill and got a very restrictive allocation of money for maintenance and upkeep of existing wall infrastructure.
Trump has spoken up on this crisis from the beginning. It's in the national forefront today largely because of Trump. Liberals like you don't want the crisis to end because you want open borders. The wall would save lives, but it would be bad for you politically, so you oppose it. Heartless.
So why hasn’t he declared it a National Emergency? There was talk of a wall long before Trump by the way. It’s at the National forefront because he said he would deliver it...and then got completely handcuffed in the spending bill and didn’t use veto power. If It is important to you then I would be upset with Trump. But you aren’t. Soooooo...
I like how you always fall back to anti-Trump attack points.
He has. Many times. President Donald J. Trump is Combatting the Opioid Crisis.
But he has to get through liberals like you. The fight's not over yet.
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I suppose facts are anti-Trump attack points to you.
He has not now or ever declared a National Emergency. That term has a meaning and it hasn’t been done. I’m not talking about him saying there is a problem I’m talking about an executive decision to declare it. Hasn’t been done. Won’t be done.
Every argument you have made has been emotional based off of your hunches and wild guesses. Numerous people have actually posted the regulations and you arrogantly drive forward in your blind ignorance.
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