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TRUMP WINS!

Earth Wind and Fire

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Good grief, give it/him a break, you’ve made it clear to all of us in the past how much you hate the man. IMO, you wouldn’t have anything good to say about him if he come up with a cure for cancer.
No…I HAVE NO ALLEGIANCES TO ANY PARTY, any politician or r any government. My only allegiance is to my family, my God and myself as a man. If Trump can’t take the heat of criticism and the questioning, just quit the circuit, concede the position to the freaking crooked socialists. So you see this guy as your hero then and everything’s going to be just hunky dorey… right! :Laugh Oh and here is the latest, there are 20 million votes unaccounted for in the great Commonwealth of Pennsylvania… so there ya go! But ya know, she is a weakling and she will concede… her and ‘No Balls’ Walls. :Biggrin In reality, I’m of the opinion that DeSantis is a much better ‘strong man’ candidate so let’s see what will happen in 4 years.
 
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Benjamin

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SO, what are you looking forward to?

A few things:

I’m looking forward to a great sense of relief, a mental cleansing of sorts, away from worrying about the path our country was on and a fresh feeling of renewed pride in my country and excitement about things to come.

I’m especially thankful for a new positive outlook for our country and feel I can start working on putting many of the negative thoughts behind me, away and out of my life.

I am looking forward to not seeing my wife being annoyed with my ranting about the politics and unbridled corruption in this country.:Cool

I am looking forward to a great new powerful team behind Trump and getting a lot of great things done, quickly.

In short, I am unburdened by what has been.
 

Reynolds

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I wish you could understand how much his being a man plays no part in my struggle with supporting him. I'm not troubled by his being a man.

I struggle to the point ot headaches and not sleeping/eating well from having this KIND of man leading me.

And yes, I did vote for him.




Benjamin, you have to be saved FIRST before you can grow as a Chrisian. I'm not God and I have no right to judge whether or not he is truly saved or not. But as my wonderful and Godly father taught me, we can only speak to the evidence of someone's spiritual status by how they live their lives.

This summer, being interviewed by Laura Ingrahm, she asked if he believed in heaven. He said, "Oh yes! And if I'm good, I'm going to go there. And I'm bad, I'm going to the other place." Does that sound like someone who is in a relationship with Christ?

He is on my prayer list and HAS been to be savedl I want him and his whole family to be saved.

In 2016, and yes that was 8 years ago, he was asked [and I've watched all of these videos] - if he ever asks God for forgiveness. He said "No. If I do something bad, I try to do good things to make up for it. That's kind of like asking for forgiveness."

This summer he spoke of Harris and Hilary Clinton and how "blowjobs" affected them differently. A couple of weeks ago, he spoke in Arnold Palmer's hometown of how "well-endowed" Palmer was and how men in locker rooms with him came out always in awe and talking to each other about it.

I don't think any Christian man that I know would talk that way in public while trying to get people's votes for POTUS.

I have ZERO issue with him being a man. I have a huge issue with him being that kind of a man.
And how did the last Baptist Sunday School teacher we had as President work out? (Jimmy Carter)
 
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Earth Wind and Fire

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A few things:

I’m looking forward to a great sense of relief, a mental cleansing of sorts, away from worrying about the path our country was on and a fresh feeling of renewed pride in my country and excitement about things to come.

I’m especially thankful for a new positive outlook for our country and feel I can start working on putting many of the negative thoughts behind me, away and out of my life.

I am looking forward to not seeing my wife being annoyed with my ranting about the politics and unbridled corruption in this country.:Cool

I am looking forward to a great new powerful team behind Trump and getting a lot of great things done, quickly.

In short, I am unburdened by what has been.
What powerful team are you alluding to?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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And how did the last Baptist Sunday School teacher we had as President work out? (Jimmy Carter)
Wasn’t Carter the Governor of Georgia? How was he in that capacity? I will concede that he was a screw up as a military commander and hostage negotiator… as well as an economics guy.
 

777

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Jimmy Carter's grandson said his grandather was happy to live to vote for Kamala Harris. I really don't believe the grandson but he did do that. Wasn't even born when he was governor, I have heard it was unremarkable and uneventful.

Not surprised Trump won yesterday, - Kamala ran a terrible campaign, her only message was "I'm not Trump". NeverTrumpers will sit around and complain that that his voters blindly support and worship him, but if they had shut up about Trump after Biden was installed, he probably would have faded into political oblivion but that's not the way obession works.
 

Reynolds

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Wasn’t Carter the Governor of Georgia? How was he in that capacity? I will concede that he was a screw up as a military commander and hostage negotiator… as well as an economics guy.
He was a decent governor. Nothing important happened during his tenure.
 

MrW

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Hmm...you want to be called a "P"rophet because you predicted he would win?

We all knew he would win. Please.

No. I said either Trump or Harris would be elected, not some third person. For that statement, I was ridiculed. I said then that I would be proved right and that (tongue in cheek) I could then change my nick to Prophet.

One of those two did win. Just as predicted, there was no possibility of a third choice to take the oath of office.

Jesting aside, God saved Trump’s life in Butler, Pennsylvania, and in Florida for this purpose, to be President again.

Because America is good and deserving of His blessing, or that Trump is so good? NO! America deserves God’s judgment of destruction and will receive it in God’s time, but millions have been praying for God’s mercy and one more chance and God has graciously extended us His grace one more time through His flawed servant “Cyrus”, and for the sake of me, my family, friends, and nation, I am so grateful and repeatedly and vocally thanking God for His goodness to us, despite deserving of His condemnation and wrath.

Thank You, Lord Jesus!
 

Martin Marprelate

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1 Timothy 2:1-2. 'Therefore I exhort first of all that supplications, prayers, intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men, for kings and all that are in authority, that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence.'
The 'king' at the time that Paul wrote this was quite possibly Nero, so the command is not dependent upon the quality or ability of the ruler. I have no liking at all for the current UK government or for Prime Minister Keir Starmer, but whenever I am leading prayers in church I do not neglect to pray for him, because, 'The king's heart is in the hand of the LORD. Like the rivers of water, He turns it wherever He wishes.' If we can lead a 'quiet and peaceable life,' that is as much as we can hope for. 'Put not your trust in princes.'
 
What!? I came here to see what people were saying and not one thread on the win? Am I the only one that stayed up to see if there would be results and now can't sleep?

And how about the team and experience that is coming with him this time?!

I truly believe we have a Golden Age coming and we have witnessed a great day in history!

SO, what are you looking forward to?

Psalm 118:8 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in man. 9 It is better to trust in the Lord than to put confidence in princes.

Donald Trump needs our prayers just as much as Joe Biden did.

I know it did not look like the Lord led Biden to do any known public repentance for what he has done in the Oval Office, but Jesus is in control & He may have kept Biden from doing worse things but we will know one day when we see Him face to face.

At any rate, we should be still praying for Biden and Trump and all of USA & the world in these latter days where faith is hard to find.

1 Timothy 2:1I exhort therefore, that, first of all, supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks, be made for all men; 2 For kings, and for all that are in authority; that we may lead a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and honesty. 3 For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; 4 Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
 
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Rye

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I’m hoping for a real conservative to eventually enter the arena… like Ron DeSantis.

I too would have preferred DeSantis. He is much younger and could potentially have served two consecutive terms. He did enter into the presidential race but in the primary election the republican voters decided they still wanted Trump to be their guy. I guess he can try again in 2028 but I think that Trump is paving the way for Vance to be his successor.
 

JonC

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I agree with some of that but think you're contradicting yourself saying you can't judge his salvation but then speak of fruit inspection.

He has said he is not a very good theologian and I have heard him confess his faith many times. I consider heart knowledge as well as head knowledge. Like I've said, I think he's grown in his faith.


However. your pray for his salvation does not confirm your judgement that he is not.


I also wish he would clean it up, however, he has been at war against evil and has had to answer and deal with a lot of ugly attacks along the way which draws him into such talk. He is not perfect, but being tough enough to win this fight was necessary and God appears to be using him to do much good.



I guess you are entitled to have your opinion and draw the line one must not cross to be saved but I don't find it much different than than Trump's comment about being good enough. I do wish he understood free grace better.
I think the point of "fruit inspection" is that whikecwe cannot judge ones salvation (we do not know if God is working in one's life, or to what extent, if a believer) we are taught to judge the "fruit" and act accordingly.

The man expelled from a congregation because of sin may, or may not, be saved. But that person is treated in accordance to his actions.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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I too would have preferred DeSantis. He is much younger and could potentially have served two consecutive terms. He did enter into the presidential race but in the primary election the republican voters decided they still wanted Trump to be their guy. I guess he can try again in 2028 but I think that Trump is paving the way for Vance to be his successor.
Anyone who makes the decision to become a Roman Catholic to me would not be a candidate for any leadership position. Vance has already disqualified himself in my book.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Isn’t DeSantis a Roman Catholic too?
Being born into it is one thing but to actively choose it as your faith is quite another thing. The RCC is an active participant in funding illegal boarder crossings into the United States. So will that compromise Vance’s position with his new found church as Trump works to eradicate illegal's? Stay tuned.
 

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No, you are not the only one who stayed up until after his winner's speech. Yes, I voted for him, but ONLY after serious and heartbreaking thought and ONLY to keep Harris out. Not one fiber in my being wants him back in office.

Not all of us are convinced that Trump is president because God is rewarding us because we are so "good" and really don't sin much and that we deserve all this goodness. And that's all I'm seeing on Facebook this morning. People have lost their minds.

Yes, our gas prices may go down and groceries may go down. But what is going to happen to us spiritually speaking with that man at the helm?

What am I looking forward to? First of all, for the church who claims holiness and righteousness to truly behave that way. And yes, I include myself. Second, for the lost to be saved.

I'm happy that you are happy. But I can't be chipper.

I think, "spiritually speaking," appointments to positions of authority will be spiritually higher than those of the Biden/Harris administration.
 
I think the point of "fruit inspection" is that whikecwe cannot judge ones salvation (we do not know if God is working in one's life, or to what extent, if a believer) we are taught to judge the "fruit" and act accordingly.

The man expelled from a congregation because of sin may, or may not, be saved. But that person is treated in accordance to his actions.

Just as God will judge every believer by what they built on that foundation ( salvation ) laid by Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 3:10 as any that sows to the flesh ( and heresy is one of them ) that defiles the temple of God, and remains defiled by the time the Bridegroom comes, that believer will be left behind to die per 1 Corinthians 3:16-17 although still saved 1 Corinthians 3:15.

Revelation 2:18-25 is a warning to that church to repent or else be cast into the bed of the coming great tribulation and be judged by their works with death as those that did not resurrect at the great tribulation rapture event, will have to wait Revelation 6:9-11 along with believers left behind to be resurrected after the great tribulation Revelation 7:9-17 & Revelation 20:1-6

Since God commanded the church through Paul to excommunicate any unrepentant brother, for this purpose, in 1 Corinthians 5:4-5, you may see why those unrepentant saints & former believers are left behind. Indeed, 1 Corinthians 5:8-11 shows how the Lord will hold the Marriage Supper in heaven in the same way church fellowship & communion should be held down here.

So that is why we are not to judge anyone as not saved or not a true Christian, but as not abiding in Him & His words in correcting them to lead them to repentance so as to live that reconciled relationship with God the Father through Jesus Christ.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Being born into it is one thing but to actively choose it as your faith is quite another thing. The RCC is an active participant in funding illegal boarder crossings into the United States. So will that compromise Vance’s position with his new found church as Trump works to eradicate illegal's? Stay tuned.
More on Ron DeSantis, his family values and his Catholism ( taken from an interview with EWTN)

DeSantis speaks with EWTN about power of prayer, family as ‘centerpiece’ of American life
 
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