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Trump's Orlando Rally

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RighteousnessTemperance&

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I have NOT profited by anything Trump has done thus far. He hasn’t lowered my taxes... in fact they have gone up. He has scoffed at congress by encouraging his staff to ignore subpoenas, and he instituted tariff programs authored by a Democrat. Now if he gets these illegals out of here then maybe we can talk but he hasn’t done a damn thing for me right as of now. So how can you expect me to support that?
Right, because rebuilding the military does not serve you personally. Nor does the blocking of transgenders in the military. Nor does having NATO nations start paying their fair share. Nor does dispersing ISIS. Nor does holding terrorist nations accountable. Nor does getting millions off of welfare and into productive jobs. Nor does a vastly improved economy. Nor does the appointment of dozens of more conservative federal judges. Nor does the exposing of the MSM as mostly fake news.
So how can you expect me to support that?
Uh, because they actually have the effect of benefiting us all.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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He has scoffed at congress by encouraging his staff to ignore subpoenas….
It’s the inclusion of things like this that make people sound like Trump haters. Everyone should be well aware by now that the push for impeachment, which began the moment Trump was elected, has been a vile witch hunt designed to hamstring his administration and, if possible, bring down his presidency. The Mueller investigation and report are a large part of that, as are those subpoenas issued based on the “testimony” of his beleaguered former attorney.

Furthermore, as you well know, Congress is not over the President, but a separate branch of government, and the House is a separate part of that branch, one acting, not in good faith, but in a most partisan manner. Trump has already gone enough out of his way to comply with the witch hunt. Time's up and ready for that shoe on the other foot.
 

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Who do you think that the Dems will nominate?

That's hard to say. Biden had a big gaffe concerning racism today, so he may not be the nominee. They will most likely go left and today I would say Bernie, but who knows? Whoever it is they will not be able to stand up to President Trump in the debates and I do not think that the American people as a whole will not vote for socialism.
 

Adonia

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So how can you expect me to support that?

So you can pull the lever for full bore socialism? Remember, it will be trillions for the "New Green Deal", trillions for single payer medical, and millions more for the illegals who will flood in through the borders that will be opened - is that what you want?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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So you can pull the lever for full bore socialism? Remember, it will be trillions for the "New Green Deal", trillions for single payer medical, and millions more for the illegals who will flood in through the borders that will be opened - is that what you want?
I want a president who performs, to date that characteristic is not there. There are stupid campaign rallies but that’s not performing, getting it done. Show me something, don’t threaten me.
 

Adonia

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I want a president who performs, to date that characteristic is not there. There are stupid campaign rallies but that’s not performing, getting it done. Show me something, don’t threaten me.

Good grief, where have you been? President Trump has cut regulations which has brought back manufacturing jobs and made the economy the best it has ever been. He has stopped apologizing to foreign nations for us being us, has stood up to the Chinese and others on trade, has gotten NATO countries to start paying more for their own defense, and is attempting to control our borders here at home and all that is somehow not getting things done?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Good grief, where have you been? President Trump has cut regulations which has brought back manufacturing jobs and made the economy the best it has ever been. He has stopped apologizing to foreign nations for us being us, has stood up to the Chinese and others on trade, has gotten NATO countries to start paying more for their own defense, and is attempting to control our borders here at home and all that is somehow not getting things done?
That jobs stuff is full of baloney. I couldn’t care less about trade issues, and attempting to control boarders, well we will see. But things like lowering my taxes, things that hit me right in the wallet, nothing.
 

church mouse guy

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That jobs stuff is full of baloney. I couldn’t care less about trade issues, and attempting to control boarders, well we will see. But things like lowering my taxes, things that hit me right in the wallet, nothing.

The Dems want to raise taxes and if the young people insist upon Medicare for all, federal taxes will have to go up at least three hundred dollars a month per person. Right now the Democrat polls say that they will beat Trump in almost every state. They might nominate Michele Obama. Do you like Liz Warren? I don't think that the Dems want to nominate another old white man. Do you think that Biden's new facelift makes him look younger?
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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The Dems want to raise taxes and if the young people insist upon Medicare for all, federal taxes will have to go up at least three hundred dollars a month per person. Right now the Democrat polls say that they will beat Trump in almost every state. They might nominate Michele Obama. Do you like Liz Warren? I don't think that the Dems want to nominate another old white man. Do you think that Biden's new facelift makes him look younger?
Show me the polls you are quoting ... and I’m not a Biden fan.

Now let’s talk about the national debt. What’s trumps plan to reduce it?
 

church mouse guy

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Show me the polls you are quoting ... and I’m not a Biden fan.

Now let’s talk about the national debt. What’s trumps plan to reduce it?

Oh, I am sure that you heard that Biden would take Texas, etc. Trump said that growth would balance the federal budget but we all know that it won't. The whole country squanders money. The GOP is not serious about cutting spending. Reagan tried to abolish the Rural Electrification Agency from the Great Depression to wire rural areas for electricity. My mother said that her dad had already put in a generator and didn't need any help from the feds in order to have electric lights. That task was finished before WW II but that agency is in business still today. Our government is as corrupt as any banana republic.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Right, because rebuilding the military does not serve you personally. Nor does the blocking of transgenders in the military. Nor does having NATO nations start paying their fair share. Nor does dispersing ISIS. Nor does holding terrorist nations accountable. Nor does getting millions off of welfare and into productive jobs. Nor does a vastly improved economy. Nor does the appointment of dozens of more conservative federal judges. Nor does the exposing of the MSM as mostly fake news.
Uh, because they actually have the effect of benefiting us all.
Correct.... irrelevant. So if your stupid enough to concern yourself with that, that’s your problem. As I’ve indicated, trump hasn’t made a dent in the economy where I live... not a dent... maybe it works for you where you live but it’s completely irrelevant to me and my people here in in the east.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Oh, I am sure that you heard that Biden would take Texas, etc. Trump said that growth would balance the federal budget but we all know that it won't. The whole country squanders money. The GOP is not serious about cutting spending. Reagan tried to abolish the Rural Electrification Agency from the Great Depression to wire rural areas for electricity. My mother said that her dad had already put in a generator and didn't need any help from the feds in order to have electric lights. That task was finished before WW II but that agency is in business still today. Our government is as corrupt as any banana republic.
Agreed and they lie through their teeth at every turn. So without trust what do you have? No politician is worth a darn. I Trust in God and my family, that’s it.
 

Wingman68

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I can see it all now, EW&F stands before our Lord & says it wasn’t important to me to vote for the babies....didn’t concern me enough to vote for freedom either, I just wanted that dang tax break, is that too much to ask? You know I have prayed to you Lord to ask you to take out a mean person, but I’m not mean that way, not responsible for pro choicers either.....as long as I get my bottom line juiced, OK?
 
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