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Adonia

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Where do you get that idea? Suppose a country is overrun by a drug cartel? What if gangs are in control?

That's not our problem, that is a problem for the local law enforcement agencies to deal with. We cannot take in everyone who wants to come here who lives in a country where crime is rampant. Why don't they stay home and fight to make their own countries better?
 

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We arrest them. Immigrants are less likely to commit a crime than Americans living here on average.

Oh I see, we have to take care of those miscreants here instead of them being dealt with in their own countries. Come on, we are spending millions upon millions to take care of our own home grown criminals, we simply do not need any more of them.
 

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Oh I see, we have to take care of those miscreants here instead of them being dealt with in their own countries. Come on, we are spending millions upon millions to take care of our own home grown criminals, we simply do not need any more of them.

The only connection of LIBERAL with LOGIC, is the first letter!!
Don’t hold your breath for any coherent response.
 

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That's not our problem, that is a problem for the local law enforcement agencies to deal with. We cannot take in everyone who wants to come here who lives in a country where crime is rampant. Why don't they stay home and fight to make their own countries better?
Many of my ancestors were Irish. A large number of them came over because of the Potato Famine. I suppose you would have rejected them because that was not due to the government. Right?
 

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Oh I see, we have to take care of those miscreants here instead of them being dealt with in their own countries. Come on, we are spending millions upon millions to take care of our own home grown criminals, we simply do not need any more of them.
Many of our home grown criminals are arming themselves for a treasonous attack on the government. But we, the people, will take care of those traitors.
 

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You forgot the link to that whopper. How much more unskilled labor do you Democrats need in order to destroy America once and for all?
Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

An estimated 1,926,390 native-born Americans, 106,431 illegal immigrants, and 52,424 legal immigrants were incarcerated in 2017. The incarceration rate for native-born Americans was 1,471 per 100,000; 756 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants; and 364 per 100,000 for legal immigrants in 2017 (Figure 1). Illegal immigrants are 49 percent less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. Legal immigrants are 75 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. If native-born Americans were incarcerated at the same rate as illegal immigrants, about 943,000 fewer natives would be incarcerated. Conversely, if natives were incarcerated at the same rate as legal immigrants, about 1.45 million fewer natives would be in adult correctional facilities.

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Oh I see, we have to take care of those miscreants here instead of them being dealt with in their own countries. Come on, we are spending millions upon millions to take care of our own home grown criminals, we simply do not need any more of them.
According to the Bureau of Prisons, about a fifth of our prison population are foreign nationals--that is huge! About 12% of our prison population are specifically Mexican nationals.
 
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Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

An estimated 1,926,390 native-born Americans, 106,431 illegal immigrants, and 52,424 legal immigrants were incarcerated in 2017. The incarceration rate for native-born Americans was 1,471 per 100,000; 756 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants; and 364 per 100,000 for legal immigrants in 2017 (Figure 1). Illegal immigrants are 49 percent less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. Legal immigrants are 75 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. If native-born Americans were incarcerated at the same rate as illegal immigrants, about 943,000 fewer natives would be incarcerated. Conversely, if natives were incarcerated at the same rate as legal immigrants, about 1.45 million fewer natives would be in adult correctional facilities.

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So all of the other illegal aliens just haven't been arrested yet but they are still criminals.
 

Adonia

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Many of my ancestors were Irish. A large number of them came over because of the Potato Famine. I suppose you would have rejected them because that was not due to the government. Right?

Sounds like your ancestors came here through Ellis Island, you know the place where they were vetted by the U.S. Government. That means they came here legally, quite unlike the vast majority of Central Americans who have refused to claim sanctuary in the first country they came to after they left their own. I have no problem with people who come here legally.

There is one giant loophole that the Dems do not want to close and that is the law concerning children. The law was passed specifically to allow children who have been sexually abused in their home countries to come here, but now every kid is let in regardless of what has happened to them at home. These kids are being used as the means to get in for adults who have no connection to the child because "family units" are automatically let in. This is one big scam from top to bottom and it is us taxpayers who have to foot the bill.

Since you are so concerned with these people, how many "families" have you offered to take into your own home and care for? Wait, since you never answered me last time I will answer for and the answer would be NONE! You are the typical liberal who comes up with some scheme on some issue and then wants the rest of us to pay for it, instead of pooling your own monetary resources and taking care of the situation yourselves.
 
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Sounds like your ancestors came here through Ellis Island, you know the place where they were vetted by the U.S. Government. That means they came here legally, quite unlike the vast majority of Central Americans who have refused to claim sanctuary in the first country they came to after they left their own. I have no problem with people who come here legally.

There is one giant loophole that the Dems do not want to close and that is the law concerning children. The law was passed specifically to allow children who have been sexually abused in their home countries to come here, but now every kid is let in regardless of what has happened to them at home. These kids are being used as the means to get in for adults who have no connection to the child because "family units" are automatically let in. This is one big scam from top to bottom and it is us taxpayers who have to foot the bill.

Since you are so concerned with these people, how many "families" have you offered to take into your own home and care for? Wait, since you never answered me last time I will answer for and the answer would be NONE! You are the typical liberal who comes up with some scheme on some issue and then wants the rest of us to pay for it, instead of pooling your own monetary resources and taking care of the situation yourselves.
There were no real laws and restrictions in the beginning.

Americans encouraged relatively free and open immigration during the 18th and early 19th centuries, and rarely questioned that policy until the late 1800s. After certain states passed immigration laws following the Civil War, the Supreme Court in 1875 declared regulation of immigration a federal responsibility. Thus, as the number of immigrants rose in the 1880s and economic conditions in some areas worsened, Congress began to pass immigration legislation.

The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Alien Contract Labor laws of 1885 and 1887 prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States. The general Immigration Act of 1882 levied a head tax of fifty cents on each immigrant and blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge.

These national immigration laws created the need for new federal enforcement authorities. In the 1880s, state boards or commissions enforced immigration law with direction from U.S. Treasury Department officials. At the Federal level, U.S. Customs Collectors at each port of entry collected the head tax from immigrants while "Chinese Inspectors" enforced the Chinese Exclusion Act.
 

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Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

Criminal Immigrants in 2017: Their Numbers, Demographics, and Countries of Origin

An estimated 1,926,390 native-born Americans, 106,431 illegal immigrants, and 52,424 legal immigrants were incarcerated in 2017. The incarceration rate for native-born Americans was 1,471 per 100,000; 756 per 100,000 for illegal immigrants; and 364 per 100,000 for legal immigrants in 2017 (Figure 1). Illegal immigrants are 49 percent less likely to be incarcerated than native-born Americans. Legal immigrants are 75 percent less likely to be incarcerated than natives. If native-born Americans were incarcerated at the same rate as illegal immigrants, about 943,000 fewer natives would be incarcerated. Conversely, if natives were incarcerated at the same rate as legal immigrants, about 1.45 million fewer natives would be in adult correctional facilities.

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Even if all of that was true, it doesn't matter. Illegal immigrants do not belong here and no Americans should be dying because they are. But then you do not care about the Americans that are dying at their hands.
 

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There were no real laws and restrictions in the beginning.

Americans encouraged relatively free and open immigration during the 18th and early 19th centuries, and rarely questioned that policy until the late 1800s. After certain states passed immigration laws following the Civil War, the Supreme Court in 1875 declared regulation of immigration a federal responsibility. Thus, as the number of immigrants rose in the 1880s and economic conditions in some areas worsened, Congress began to pass immigration legislation.

The Chinese Exclusion Act of 1882 and Alien Contract Labor laws of 1885 and 1887 prohibited certain laborers from immigrating to the United States. The general Immigration Act of 1882 levied a head tax of fifty cents on each immigrant and blocked (or excluded) the entry of idiots, lunatics, convicts, and persons likely to become a public charge.

These national immigration laws created the need for new federal enforcement authorities. In the 1880s, state boards or commissions enforced immigration law with direction from U.S. Treasury Department officials. At the Federal level, U.S. Customs Collectors at each port of entry collected the head tax from immigrants while "Chinese Inspectors" enforced the Chinese Exclusion Act.

Very good and I wholeheartedly agree with your synopsis on the issue. The Federal government is indeed in charge of protecting the nations borders, but because of some of the laws currently on the books it is now having some difficulty doing it.
 
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