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Turkey and Armenia resolutio

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Matt Black

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Apparently the 1953 coup was masterminded by Kermit Roosevelt.

Wait a minute...

Kermit??!! Staging a coup?! "Well, Miss Piggy, I'm very pleased to introduce this evening....your very own Mohammed Reza Shah Pahlavi who's going to rule you for the next 25 years!"
 
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Matt Black

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
Well I am glad that the average American doesn't buy into that misinformation.
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Too bad that they don't, more like it. Why do you think that Mr bin Laden doesn't like us very much? Hint: it's not just because we're Western infidels - his brand of Wahhabist Islam thought that 150 years ago, but you didn't get Arabs from Saudi coming over to our patch trying to blow themselves up; they were quite content just being beastly to each other and to leave it to disgruntled Irishmen to attack us. The problem only started when we started going over to their patch and interfering with their affairs. A sound strategy with nutters is always to give them a wide berth. But unfortunately these were nutters with oil so we couldn't...
 
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KenH

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You have to remember, Matt, that a lot of Americans are nationalistic when they view foreign policy - whatever the United States government wants in international relations is good and that it should get whatever it wants and anyone with a different viewpoint is a bad person in their eyes.
 
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2 Timothy2:1-4

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Matt Black said:
Too bad that they don't, more like it. Why do you think that Mr bin Laden doesn't like us very much? Hint: it's not just because we're Western infidels - his brand of Wahhabist Islam thought that 150 years ago, but you didn't get Arabs from Saudi coming over to our patch trying to blow themselves up; they were quite content just being beastly to each other and to leave it to disgruntled Irishmen to attack us. The problem only started when we started going over to their patch and interfering with their affairs. A sound strategy with nutters is always to give them a wide berth. But unfortunately these were nutters with oil so we couldn't...
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More hate America first rhetoric. He doesn like any support of Israel. Arabs hate Jews for the most part. And they do not want them in that area of the world for any reason. And America will continue to support Israel.
 
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Dagwood

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2 Timothy2:1-4 said:
More hate America first rhetoric. He doesn like any support of Israel. Arabs hate Jews for the most part. And they do not want them in that area of the world for any reason. And America will continue to support Israel.
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Here is proof that you are right, Ken!
 
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carpro

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Matt Black said:
The problem only started when we started going over to their patch and interfering with their affairs.
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More of the 911 was our fault type of thinking.:rolleyes:
 
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NiteShift

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Matt Black said:
Apparently the 1953 coup was masterminded by Kermit Roosevelt
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I'm sure you already know this, but in fact, it was a joint Anglo-American operation. Winston Churchill and Dwight Eisenhower approved the covert action, with Kermit Roosevelt having been assigned the task of coordinating with the Shah and the Iranian military.

It all began, of course, when the Iranian parliament nationalized the oil industry, abrogated agreements that were supposed to be in effect until 2000, and then proceeded to boot out the Anglo-Iranian Oil Company. The British oil company had developed and operated the oil wells in Persia. They eventually offered to share ½ of all oil profits, but Mosaddeq refused. Mosaddeq had dissolved the Senate. He demanded control of the military be taken from the Shah and given to himself.

The Pahlavi dynasty had ruled Persia since 1925, until Mosaddeq forced Shah Pahlavi into exile, so it's not as if we just pulled him out of a hat. The US and UK helped him to regain his throne. Meddling, yes. But they felt it was meddling for a good purpose. Churchill described Mossadegh as "an elderly lunatic".

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