Two Cops Hold Down 110 lb College Student, While Third Cop Releases K-9

[poncho]

Norfolk, VA — A 21-year-old Army private was hospitalized with severe wounds after an incident involving three Norfolk Police officers.

London Colvin is a second-semester junior and Sociology major at Norfolk State University and a private in the 3rd Brigade, 318th Regiment and 78th Training Division, based at Fort Belvoir.

Colvin was at an off-campus party early Sunday morning when a fight broke out. According to her cousin, her and her friends were leaving when the police showed up.

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[Revmitchell]

Actually she was not within her rights to not talk to the officers. When they are doing and investigation they can lawfully question people. Refusing to answer questions is both immature and makes one look complicit. Not only did she refuse to comply with questioning but she continued to be loud as she tried to walk away. Then when they detained her she resisted.


Failing to comply and resisting brought about these circumstances. She is completely at fault.

 

[poncho]

You never even think twice before licking their boots do you Rev?

 

[Revmitchell]

You never even think twice before licking their boots do you Rev?

What you never think twice about is the dangers of being a cop.

 

[poncho]

What you never think twice about is the dangers of being a cop.

I've thought about it. Why, I've even looked up the statistics.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has determined that there are nine jobs in America more dangerous than being a police officer. Here are the 10 most dangerous jobs in America according to the most recent figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and the fatal work injury rate (per 100,000 workers).

https://clarkcountycriminalcops.wordpress.com/facts-and-figures/farmers-fishermen-and-trash-collectors-have-more-dangerous-jobs-than-cops/

So the standard excuse for police brutality is just that, an excuse. One that isn't supported by the numbers.

So what's your back up excuse?

If the police are so afraid of the public that they'll whine about their job being so dangerous all the time maybe they should consider a safer occupation. You never hear the garbage man whining about how dangerous his job is and yet it's more dangerous than being a cop.

 

[Revmitchell]

Having jobs more dangerous than cops does nothing to remove the every day danger for cops. What an ignorant thing to say.

 

[poncho]

Having jobs more dangerous than cops does nothing to remove the every day danger for cops. What an ignorant thing to say.

It's not ignorant to say two heavily armed body armor clad cops have a right to hold down an unarmed unprotected 110 pound woman while their dog chews holes in her leg because she chooses not to talk to them?

In all the years I have been reading your posts I have seen very little evidence that you have any empathy for anyone not in authority. Idol worship?

Keep licking their boots Rev, someday you may have one of those boots grinding your face into ground.

And the weird thing is I'll probably be the first one to stick up for you. Of course I suspect you'll be siding with the ones kicking your head in while I do.

 

[Sapper Woody]

As with all these stories that come up, we don't know all the facts. Maybe they were wrong, maybe they weren't. It sure seems like she was resisting detainment.



But, as always, I'll reserve my judgment for more facts to come to light.

 

[just-want-peace]

As with all these stories that come up, we don't know all the facts. Maybe they were wrong, maybe they weren't. It sure seems like she was resisting detainment.



But, as always, I'll reserve my judgment for more facts to come to light.

A very rare quality these days. :thumbs:

 

[Jkdbuck76]

Hopefully this experience will convince the private to switch majors. MY degree was in Sociology.

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[poncho]

As with all these stories that come up, we don't know all the facts. Maybe they were wrong, maybe they weren't. It sure seems like she was resisting detainment.



But, as always, I'll reserve my judgment for more facts to come to light.

Since January 25th, my department has been investigating the arrest of London Colvin. While we continue to wrap up the final few interviews with witnesses and officers, I feel I have enough information to determine the use of force in Ms. Colvin’s arrest was unreasonable.

I will address my officers’ actions through our disciplinary process.

My review of the policies governing the use of police canines continue. This review will ensure that Norfolk canines are used appropriately in all circumstances. As Chief, I am responsible for the policies and procedures that govern my officers’ actions. While I expect my officers to make the best judgment in all circumstances, if the policy doesn’t support the outcomes I expect, I have failed them. I am committed to having the best trained department and I will make this right.

I will make the revised policy available once I have completed my review.

Sincerely
Chief Michael Goldsmith

http://wavy.com/2015/01/28/nsu-student-claims-attack-by-police-k-9/

 

[Zaac]

It's not ignorant to say two heavily armed body armor clad cops have a right to hold down an unarmed unprotected 110 pound woman while their dog chews holes in her leg because she chooses not to talk to them?

In all the years I have been reading your posts I have seen very little evidence that you have any empathy for anyone not in authority. Idol worship?

That's the problem with a lot of folks on the right on this board who say they are followers of Jesus . You don't see much love like they love themselves for anyone except their select politicians and authority figures who they believe represent their authority.

Some will never recognize that there is a real problem in this country with police officers and extreme force and brutality until the police "accidentally" kick down their door and come in and shoot them when they were supposed to be shooting the guy next door.

 

[Aaron]

As with all these stories that come up, we don't know all the facts. Maybe they were wrong, maybe they weren't. It sure seems like she was resisting detainment.



But, as always, I'll reserve my judgment for more facts to come to light.

The only relevant fact is she is black. So she's a victim.

 

[Sapper Woody]

Since January 25th, my department has been investigating the arrest of London Colvin. While we continue to wrap up the final few interviews with witnesses and officers, I feel I have enough information to determine the use of force in Ms. Colvin’s arrest was unreasonable.





I will address my officers’ actions through our disciplinary process.





My review of the policies governing the use of police canines continue. This review will ensure that Norfolk canines are used appropriately in all circumstances. As Chief, I am responsible for the policies and procedures that govern my officers’ actions. While I expect my officers to make the best judgment in all circumstances, if the policy doesn’t support the outcomes I expect, I have failed them. I am committed to having the best trained department and I will make this right.





I will make the revised policy available once I have completed my review.





Sincerely


Chief Michael Goldsmith





http://wavy.com/2015/01/28/nsu-student-claims-attack-by-police-k-9/

I applaud this man. He is not pointing fingers, and is saying "It's on me, and it will change". I like him.

 

[Don]

I've thought about it. Why, I've even looked up the statistics.

The Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) has determined that there are nine jobs in America more dangerous than being a police officer. Here are the 10 most dangerous jobs in America according to the most recent figures from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) and the fatal work injury rate (per 100,000 workers).

https://clarkcountycriminalcops.wor...ollectors-have-more-dangerous-jobs-than-cops/

So the standard excuse for police brutality is just that, an excuse. One that isn't supported by the numbers.

So what's your back up excuse?

If the police are so afraid of the public that they'll whine about their job being so dangerous all the time maybe they should consider a safer occupation. You never hear the garbage man whining about how dangerous his job is and yet it's more dangerous than being a cop.

You do know the flaws with this study, right?

The study ONLY identifies number of worker deaths per 100,000; it doesn't differentiate about the causes of those deaths. For example, number of accidental on-the-job deaths vice homicides.

I'll check out the BLS stats when I get a chance and see if I can find that differentiation. I've gone over my data limit for the month, so my internet is being throttled; not to mention that as of last Thursday, most of us no longer have broadband internet, and those of us in rural areas even less so. But that's another topic.

Oh, and the article you linked to? #8 and #9 both reference fishermen, although they're supposed to be referencing something else. Bad editing job by the author or the editor.

 

[poncho]

You do know the flaws with this study, right?

The study ONLY identifies number of worker deaths per 100,000; it doesn't differentiate about the causes of those deaths. For example, number of accidental on-the-job deaths vice homicides.

I'll check out the BLS stats when I get a chance and see if I can find that differentiation. I've gone over my data limit for the month, so my internet is being throttled; not to mention that as of last Thursday, most of us no longer have broadband internet, and those of us in rural areas even less so. But that's another topic.

Oh, and the article you linked to? #8 and #9 both reference fishermen, although they're supposed to be referencing something else. Bad editing job by the author or the editor.

In 2013, out of 900,000 sworn officers, just 100 died from a job-related injury. That's about 11.1 per 100,000, or a rate of 0.01%.

Policing doesn't even make it into the top 10 most dangerous American professions. Logging has a fatality rate 11 times higher, at 127.8 per 100,000. Fishing: 117 per 100,000. Pilot/flight engineer: 53.4 per 100,000. It's twice as dangerous to be a truck driver as a cop—at 22.1 per 100,000.

Another point to bear in mind is that not all officer fatalities are homicides. Out of the 100 deaths in 2013, 31 were shot, 11 were struck by a vehicle, 2 were stabbed, and 1 died in a "bomb-related incident." Other causes of death were: aircraft accident (1), automobile accident (28), motorcycle accident (4), falling (6), drowning (2), electrocution (1), and job-related illness (13).

Even assuming that half these deaths were homicides, policing would have a murder rate of 5.55 per 100,000, comparable to the average murder rate of U.S. cities: 5.6 per 100,000. It's more dangerous to live in Baltimore (35.01 murders per 100,000 residents) than to be a cop in 2014.

http://fee.org/blog/detail/by-the-numbers-how-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-cop

Bottom line is that a cop's job isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out to be.

 

[Sapper Woody]

Bottom line is that a cop's job isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out to be.

It's not the danger so much as it is the uncertainty. None of the trees are out to kill a logger. If he dies, it's an accident. Same with the other professions.



But officers? They never know if the person they're dealing with has a vendetta against officers, or just robbed a store and will kill to stay out of prison.

 

[poncho]

It's not the danger so much as it is the uncertainty. None of the trees are out to kill a logger. If he dies, it's an accident. Same with the other professions.



But officers? They never know if the person they're dealing with has a vendetta against officers, or just robbed a store and will kill to stay out of prison.

Is that why cops frequently freak out grab their guns and escalate situations?

http://photographyisnotacrime.com/2015/01/new-york-cop-pulls-gun-teens-snowball-fight/

If they're so afraid of being injured or killed maybe they should find a safer occupation. Giving them tanks and dressing them up like combat soldiers doesn't exactly put out the vibe that they're there to protect and serve us. It makes them look and act more like an occupying military force rather than a police force.

 

[Don]

In 2013, out of 900,000 sworn officers, just 100 died from a job-related injury. That's about 11.1 per 100,000, or a rate of 0.01%.

Policing doesn't even make it into the top 10 most dangerous American professions. Logging has a fatality rate 11 times higher, at 127.8 per 100,000. Fishing: 117 per 100,000. Pilot/flight engineer: 53.4 per 100,000. It's twice as dangerous to be a truck driver as a cop—at 22.1 per 100,000.

Another point to bear in mind is that not all officer fatalities are homicides. Out of the 100 deaths in 2013, 31 were shot, 11 were struck by a vehicle, 2 were stabbed, and 1 died in a "bomb-related incident." Other causes of death were: aircraft accident (1), automobile accident (28), motorcycle accident (4), falling (6), drowning (2), electrocution (1), and job-related illness (13).

Even assuming that half these deaths were homicides, policing would have a murder rate of 5.55 per 100,000, comparable to the average murder rate of U.S. cities: 5.6 per 100,000. It's more dangerous to live in Baltimore (35.01 murders per 100,000 residents) than to be a cop in 2014.

http://fee.org/blog/detail/by-the-numbers-how-dangerous-is-it-to-be-a-cop

Bottom line is that a cop's job isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out to be.

Poncho - you're ignoring the basic fact.

How many loggers who died on the job, died because they were murdered? How many fishermen? How many of the other jobs identified had homicide listed as part of their on-the-job fatalities?

When was the last time you asked a fisherman to step between a woman with a knife and a man with a club intent on hurting each other? When was the last time you asked a logger to stop a man with a gun from robbing a convenience store?

And thus, the study compares apples and oranges. I think it extraordinary that police officers have such a lower rate; and that itself begs the question: how is it possible that policemen, who intentionally put themselves in such situations on our behalf, have such a lower rate? What are they doing that loggers and fishermen could possibly learn from and reduce their death rates?

 

[poncho]

Poncho - you're ignoring the basic fact.

How many loggers who died on the job, died because they were murdered? How many fishermen? How many of the other jobs identified had homicide listed as part of their on-the-job fatalities?

When was the last time you asked a fisherman to step between a woman with a knife and a man with a club intent on hurting each other? When was the last time you asked a logger to stop a man with a gun from robbing a convenience store?

And thus, the study compares apples and oranges. I think it extraordinary that police officers have such a lower rate; and that itself begs the question: how is it possible that policemen, who intentionally put themselves in such situations on our behalf, have such a lower rate? What are they doing that loggers and fishermen could possibly learn from and reduce their death rates?

Um, maybe loggers and fishermen should dress in black battle fatigues and face masks, carry German sub-machine guns, bundle up in body armor and ride around in tanks and armored vehicles to intimidate and condition innocent people to live in fear of them?

The militarized police state we see growing all around us (it's international) isn't about fighting crime or protecting us from evil terrorists. It's to condition us all to live under a state of tyranny and love it and the people doing the intimidating.

So far it seems to be working just fine for the most part.

The bottom line is still, a cops' job isn't nearly as dangerous as they make it out be. "Oh we have it so tough so you have to give us more money, more power and more control over your lives!"

Where's it end Don? How much more money power and control do we have to give them to make their job easier and safer?

We could scrap the constitution altogether that would make their job so much easier. We could all have RFID chips planted in us and every product on the market so they can keep track of us and our belongings 24/7 that would make their job much safer by being able to know ahead of time who has a deadly set of fingernail clippers on them.

Where does it end? Ask the people who lived under the Stasi police state. That's where it ends.

A cop's life is no more or less important than anyone else's and I get tired of being told they are day after day.