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IJohn 1:7,8,10Originally posted by Frank:
Baptism for the remission of sins is for the sinner. There are no exceptions given in the pages of the New Testament.
(Mat 26:28 KJV) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.It is not baptism that remits sin; it is the blood of Christ.
Finally, something new! DHK, notice what you just posted please! The verse you quote makes salvation conditional...and not only that but places some responsibility on man...on actions even. IF WE WALK IN THE LIGHT...THEN WE ARE CLEANSED BY THE BLOOD. What does it mean to walk in the light? Heb 5:9 "And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;" What must we obey? For one, "Repent & be baptized" (Acts 2:38)IJohn 1:7,8,10
7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
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It is not baptism that remits sin; it is the blood of Christ.
Originally posted by SolaScriptura:
Mat. 3:11 I indeed baptize you with water unto (eis) repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:It is not baptism that remits sin; it is the blood of Christ.
PS: As a sidenote, I John 1:7 also disproves the common Baptist "Once Saved Always Saved" doctrine. If you cease to walk in the light you cease to be cleansed by the blood, and without the cleansing of the blood you cannot be saved!
Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for (eis) the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
The same Greek preposition is used in both verses. John baptized unto, or on the basis of repentance. He would not baptize anyone unless they first brought forth fruits that were worthy of repentance. Show me the fruit first. Then I will baptize. He baptized on the basis of the Pharisees (or whomever) having already repented.
Peter did the same thing. The command was to be baptized on the basis of the remission of their sins.
That fits in with the rest of Scripture. Baptism always follows salvation; it is never a part of salvation, and never precedes it.
Romans 6 does not say anything more but that baptism is symbolic of our being dead to sin and our rising to a new life with Christ. It is a picture, nothing more.
We are saved by His blood, not by water.
We are kept in fellowship by His blood, not by water--hence the teaching in 1John.
The blood of Christ saves the one who puts their trust in that sacrifice that Christ made on the cross. His faith and his faith alone in that blood will save him. All his sins: past, present, and future will be forgiven him at that time. Romans 8:1 teaches that there is no condemnation that he can face as far as his salvation is concerned.
But here is more that the blood does. It cleanses the believer every day of every sin that he confesses to God (1John 1:9), and restores him to fellowship, that may have been broken by sin (1John 1:7). Those verses are talking of the believers walk with God, not his salvation. The principle in verse 7 however, remains the same. The blood of Christ cleanses us from all sin.
DHK
Scripture doesn't contradict itself. Both those verses must be correct.(Mat 26:28 KJV) For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
(Acts 2:38 KJV) Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
And that is a problem how?According to this type of reasoning, you would have to agree that a person actually contacts the blood of Jesus at the moment that a person believes in Jesus Christ.
"To him give all the prophets witness, that through his name whosoever believeth in him shall receive remission of sins." Acts 10:43
Contact with the blood of Jesus occurs at the moment of believing. (prior to baptism)