Two Witnesses of Revelation Will Appear in 2023

[canadyjd]

Scripture references?

I was responding to your statement that the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur 3 1/2 years after the anti-Christ desecrates the Jewish Temple.

Right now, there is no Jewish Temple. Sitting on the site of the old Jewish Temple is a Muslim Mosque called the Dome of the Rock one of the most Holy Sites in Islam.

No scripture needed to see what should be obvious.

peace to you

 

[Pipiripi]

My fr

I was responding to your statement that the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur 3 1/2 years after the anti-Christ desecrates the Jewish Temple.

Right now, there is no Jewish Temple. Sitting on the site of the old Jewish Temple is a Muslim Mosque called the Dome of the Rock one of the most Holy Sites in Islam.

No scripture needed to see what should be obvious.

peace to you

My friend nobody can put days or time for the coming of Jesus. The only thing that we have is the fulfillment of the last prophecies to have to come. After the man of sin let the world to worship God on Sunday, against their own will. That means the Mark of the beast. I wish that you can open your heart to understand the Bible BIBLICAL. Exactly how the Bible teaches.

 

[canadyjd]

My fr

My friend nobody can put days or time for the coming of Jesus. The only thing that we have is the fulfillment of the last prophecies to have to come. After the man of sin let the world to worship God on Sunday, against their own will. That means the Mark of the beast. I wish that you can open your heart to understand the Bible BIBLICAL. Exactly how the Bible teaches.

Are you saying Sunday worship is the mark of the beast?

peace to you

 

[Taylor 2020]

You people have no understanding of the Torah nor its appointed. Which is why you are as clueless as dogs. And growl when pearls are offered to you, like ravenous dogs.

That's.... not a very Christian attitude. Seems like you're the only one barking here.

 

[Sai]

I was responding to your statement that the 2nd coming of Jesus will occur 3 1/2 years after the anti-Christ desecrates the Jewish Temple.

Right now, there is no Jewish Temple. Sitting on the site of the old Jewish Temple is a Muslim Mosque called the Dome of the Rock one of the most Holy Sites in Islam.

No scripture needed to see what should be obvious.

peace to you

Was there a question there?

 

[Sai]

So, I guess we can’t anticipate Christ’s 2nd coming until the Jews tear down that Muslim Mosque that is sitting on the Temple Mount, and then they have to rebuild the Jewish Temple? Correct?

peace to you

Jesus will not return until the Jewish people as a nation ask him to.

 

[Pipiripi]

Are you saying Sunday worship is the mark of the beast?

peace to you

Right now not. When the degree One World Order and One Religion is done, and when they begin to force you worship God on Sunday, if you obey them, the you received the mark of the beast. The mark of the beast is all to do with worship.

 

[Pipiripi]

Jesus will not return until the Jewish people as a nation ask him to.

Where can I read that in the Bible?

 

[Sai]

Where can I read that in the Bible?

(The prophecy of God having left heaven returning to heaven due to one specific sin committed nationally by Israel)

“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.”
‭‭Hosea‬ ‭5:15‬ ‭


(The committing of the one specific sin that caused God the Son’s return to heaven at the right hand of the Father)

“And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
...Even so shall it be also unto this evil generation.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:32, 45‬ ‭ASV‬‬

(The prerequisite to the return of our Lord)
“For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:39‬ ‭ASV‬‬

 

[timtofly]

(The prophecy of God having left heaven returning to heaven due to one specific sin committed nationally by Israel)

“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.”
‭‭Hosea‬ ‭5:15‬ ‭


(The committing of the one specific sin that caused God the Son’s return to heaven at the right hand of the Father)

“And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
...Even so shall it be also unto this evil generation.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:32, 45‬ ‭ASV‬‬

(The prerequisite to the return of our Lord)
“For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:39‬ ‭ASV‬‬

Interesting theory. Some at the wailing wall have been praying that. That is what Judaism has prayed for since the last prophet in the last chapter of 2 Chronicles. That is why they rejected Jesus. They have never stopped praying.

14 In addition, the chief cohanim and the people grew increasingly unfaithful, following all the abominable practices of the other nations; and they polluted the house of Adonai, which he had consecrated in Yerushalayim.
15 Time after time, and frequently, Adonai, the God of their ancestors, sent word to them through his messengers; because he had compassion on his people and on the place where he lived.
16 But they ridiculed God’s messengers, treating his words with contempt and scoffing at his prophets, until the anger of Adonai rose up against his people to the extent that there was no longer any remedy.

23 “Here is what Koresh king of Persia says: Adonai, the God of heaven, has given me all the kingdoms on earth, and he has charged me to build him a house in Yerushalayim, in Y’hudah. Whoever there is among you of all his people, may Adonai his God be with him! He may go up . . . .”

They are looking for Adonai, the Lord. They will find the Lamb, who was crucified.

The timing comes from God. Not based on any human activity one iota. The only thing the church can do is pray, humble themselves, seek God’s face, and turn from their wickedness. That is not some magic mumbo jumbo, or taking scripture out of context. God is not going to wait for that last one. If the church fails, those who missed the chance, will be blood stains on the church's hands. The church could still bring in a bountiful harvest. But they have to do it now; no opportunity after the church is complete. What is done will be done, no magic number to get to. Sorry.

The Jews returning from Babylon gave up as well, waiting and waiting. A temple was built and they kept waiting. Then the temple was destroyed, yet they kept waiting. They are more patient than this church generation, who have proclaimed Christ already came in the 1st century. They deny most of the future prophecies. They think it crazy, yet Judaism has been futurist for over 400 years longer than the church. Some in the Northern tribes 700 years before Christ. Just because one generation rejected Jesus Christ in 30AD, means that generations living now who have the Law and the prophets all over the world are not waiting. The whole of creation is groaning, has been groaning for a long time. Why has the church become so impatient and so doctrinally corrupted?

 

[Oseas3]

My friend how can we talk together apart from here about all this end times prophecy? This is my belief it is completely BIBLICAL. end-times-prophecy.org go there and let me know where we can speak about this end time.

I visited the site but there is not a forum. How would you like to comunicate?

The destruction that Jesus was talking of the temple in Jerusalem occurred on AD 7O by the Romans.

Yes, the Jews preferred Barabbas instead JESUS, and our LORD was crucified. Near 40 years after, in the year 70, Israel was punished severely, in accord Deuteronomy 28:v.15-68, and hundreds of thousands of the Jews were killed in the invasion by the Romans, those who fled and escaped, they were scattered and were persecuted in the four corners of the earth, from the year 70 to the year 1948, they were severely punished and left without nation for 1878 anos, the curses which Moses exposed to them, they fell upon all the Jews wherever they went.

They can build the temple again but it means nothing of the end times.

Yes, they can, but God will impede the construction of another temple.
With the manifestation of a false messiah of the Jews (John 5:v.43), an IMPOSTER, then the punishment will be worse, worst than the punishments of the year 70. And only 144000 will be saved.

The only two prophecies that must fulfill now, is the king of north entered in Jerusalem and the battle of Armageddon.

Oh yes, the battle of Armagedom is at door. In my vison it is a contraction or abbreviation of three words: Air-Magog-Eddom. Eddom signifies red. Eddom(red) has nothing to do with Russia, but Israel.

We are in heaven according Ephesians 1:v.3, it means, we are above, in the air(Genesis 1:v.6-8), that said, the battle is in heaven, in the Air, against two powerful Beasts, one Gentile Beast, the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:v.1-10, who is symbolized as Magog; and another Beast, the Beast like a lamb(Revelation 13:v.11-18), a false lamb, a false messiah of the Jews (John 5:v.43 and 2Thes.2), who is symbolized as Eddom.

So, the battle will happen in heaven(A(i)r), against Mag(og) and Edom. battle of Ar-Mag-Eddom- Revelation 12:v.7-12

May our LORD God bless and keep us, and give us His protection
Amen

 

[timtofly]

My friend the first Sabbath is in creation, the day that God rested. And it is the last day, day 7. There is not day 8. We begin again with day 1 and it is Sunday in our Calendar. There was alway JEWS that have keep the Sabbath. We cannot judge all because some of them have break the Sabbath. We must listen to God our Father and Jesus our master. Read Isiah 56:1-8. Everybody have their own choice to choose. We are free to choose. I hope that you have understand what I am saying here. Sorry for my English, because I'm not an English man.

God does not go by "our" calender. We just use one to keep track of history. The Garden of Eden was a final act of Creation, not a first act. Resurrection Sunday was the final act when Jesus died on the Cross. It was an 8th day. We see Sunday as the first day, but if one stays true to the historical period of Jesus' time, the last Sunday, was the 8th day. Literally in Genesis 2, God mentions the Day of the Lord. It was the first Day of the Lord. The first literal 1000 years of a perfect creation, but God finished that creation on an 8th day, by planting the Garden of Eden and placing Adam in it. Then, and only then the second day Adam spent in the Garden, was the first day of the 2nd Millennium of earth. Adam was 1 "Day" old to God. Adam had been on earth for 1000 years. To the sons of God perhaps the first 1000 years was just a day to them? Who knows? After 30 years in the Garden, Adam disobeyed, the rest is history.

 

[timtofly]

Oh yes, the battle of Armagedom is at door. In my vison it is a contraction or abbreviation of three words: Air-Magog-Eddom. Eddom signifies red. Eddom(red) has nothing to do with Russia, but Israel.

It is fought in the valley of Megiddo. It is a rally cry of God that brings all living on earth whether they want to come or not. All on earth will be killed. Not a single descendant of Adam left. All dead. Only birds will be heard. They will gorge themselves. Then will be consumed themselves from over consuming all that rotten flesh.

This is still over 6 years from now. Let's not skip over too many other facts yet.

 

[Pipiripi]

(The prophecy of God having left heaven returning to heaven due to one specific sin committed nationally by Israel)

“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.”
‭‭Hosea‬ ‭5:15‬ ‭


(The committing of the one specific sin that caused God the Son’s return to heaven at the right hand of the Father)

“And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
...Even so shall it be also unto this evil generation.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:32, 45‬ ‭ASV‬‬

(The prerequisite to the return of our Lord)
“For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:39‬ ‭ASV‬‬

My friend this the deception by taken verses here and there and make your own story. God said my house is for all nations. Today everyone all GENTILES, that believe in Jesus is a Jew. All Christians that have Jesus as their Lord and Saviour is a JEW. THEY ARE ALL SPIRITUAL JEWS. Not by birth, by the Holy Spirit OF God. Not the god holy spirit of the trinity. But the Holy Spirit of God who is Jesus HIMSELF.

 

[Pipiripi]

It is fought in the valley of Megiddo. It is a rally cry of God that brings all living on earth whether they want to come or not. All on earth will be killed. Not a single descendant of Adam left. All dead. Only birds will be heard. They will gorge themselves. Then will be consumed themselves from over consuming all that rotten flesh.

This is still over 6 years from now. Let's not skip over too many other facts yet.

My friend your teaching is not BIBLICAL. Everybody told that we cannot sat day or time for the return of Jesus. Once that you can accept that, I can continue a lovely deliberating with you.

 

[Pipiripi]

God does not go by "our" calender. We just use one to keep track of history. The Garden of Eden was a final act of Creation, not a first act. Resurrection Sunday was the final act when Jesus died on the Cross. It was an 8th day. We see Sunday as the first day, but if one stays true to the historical period of Jesus' time, the last Sunday, was the 8th day. Literally in Genesis 2, God mentions the Day of the Lord. It was the first Day of the Lord. The first literal 1000 years of a perfect creation, but God finished that creation on an 8th day, by planting the Garden of Eden and placing Adam in it. Then, and only then the second day Adam spent in the Garden, was the first day of the 2nd Millennium of earth. Adam was 1 "Day" old to God. Adam had been on earth for 1000 years. To the sons of God perhaps the first 1000 years was just a day to them? Who knows? After 30 years in the Garden, Adam disobeyed, the rest is history.

Friend again your teaching is not BIBLICAL. God created 7 days. What is the name of the 8 day? Where in the Bible I can read the 8 day of creation? How the 8 day look likes? I know from Sunday to Saturday is 7 days. Where do you put the 8 day that you are talking into the creations day?

 

[Pipiripi]

(The prophecy of God having left heaven returning to heaven due to one specific sin committed nationally by Israel)

“I will go and return to my place, till they acknowledge their offence, and seek my face: in their affliction they will seek me earnestly.”
‭‭Hosea‬ ‭5:15‬ ‭


(The committing of the one specific sin that caused God the Son’s return to heaven at the right hand of the Father)

“And whosoever shall speak a word against the Son of man, it shall be forgiven him; but whosoever shall speak against the Holy Spirit, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, nor in that which is to come.
...Even so shall it be also unto this evil generation.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭12:32, 45‬ ‭ASV‬‬

(The prerequisite to the return of our Lord)
“For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:39‬ ‭ASV‬‬

My friend this the deception by taken verses here and there and make your own story. God said my house is a house for worship to allnations. Today everyone all GENTILES, that believe in Jesus is a Jew.

 

[Oseas3]

God does not go by "our" calender.

What prevails is the Word of God, I hope you believe in God- the Word is God, understand? God said by the Apostle Peter that one Day with the LORDis as 1000 years or one millennium. 2Peter 3:v.8 - Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God revealed to Moses, around 2500 years after Adam, the genealogy of His special and particular seed, the seed of God, as follows:

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived ….............................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ..................................................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ..................................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived...................................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived .............................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived .................................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ..................................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived.........................................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ..............................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood............................600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood =..................1.656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. So, see the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES -------------------------- DURATION
I - From Adam to the Flood------------------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood to Abraham--------------------------------.427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus-----------------------------------430 years-Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul --------------------------------- 396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ----------------------- 508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus --------------------. 587 years
Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus ------------4,004 years (or around 1.460.000 days until the first coming of our LORD Jesus)

You must study better or more deeply Scriptures, not ONLY by the letter because the letter kills, if you do this ONLY you will spread lies and will be a killer of souls ONLY.

 

[Pipiripi]

What prevails is the Word of God, I hope you believe in God- the Word is God, understand? God said by the Apostle Peter that one Day with the LORDis as 1000 years or one millennium. 2Peter 3:v.8 - Beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

God revealed to Moses, around 2500 years after Adam, the genealogy of His special and particular seed, the seed of God, as follows:

Based in the Word of God, the source of the truth, on God's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years (Psalm 90:4; II Pet. 3:8; Heb. 4:4) so MANKIND would go through six God Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

In accord biblical Chronology, we can number our days beginning in Genesis chapter 5, as follow:

Adam lived ….............................................................130 yrs and begat Seth
Seth lived ..................................................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;
Enosh lived ..................................................................90 yrs and begat Kenan;
Kenan lived...................................................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;
Mahalalel lived .............................................................65 yrs and begat Jared;
Jared lived .................................................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;
Enoch lived ..................................................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;
Methuselah lived.........................................................187 yrs and begat Lamech;
Lamech lived ..............................................................182 yrs and begat Noah;
From Noah´s birth until the Flood............................600 yrs.
Total of yrs from Adam to the Flood =..................1.656 yrs.

I work with the Word of God. Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of God, it is not of human theories or human speculations. Let us study the times until our days not by human theories and speculations, but by the Word of God. So, see the table below:

PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES -------------------------- DURATION
I - From Adam to the Flood------------------------------------1,656 years (as was showed above)
II - From the Flood to Abraham--------------------------------.427 years
III - From Abraham to Exodus-----------------------------------430 years-Gal.3:17
IV - From Exodus to king Saul --------------------------------- 396 years
V - From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem ----------------------- 508 years
VI - From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus --------------------. 587 years
Thus, from Adam to the 1st coming of Jesus ------------4,004 years (or around 1.460.000 days until the first coming of our LORD Jesus)

You must study better or more deeply Scriptures, not ONLY by the letter because the letter kills, if you do this ONLY you will spread lies and will be a killer of souls ONLY.

My friend we are not God. For God a day is equal to a year to. For God everything is how He wanted to be. Are you God? There are symbolic days and there are normal days. Is it difficult for you to understand that there is only 7 days? Do you know in the New World we must go worship God on the Sabbath? And that is still 7 days. My friend let God open your mind for you to get knowledge. Hosea 4:1,6

 

[Oseas3]

Today everyone all GENTILES, that believe in Jesus is a Jew.

Yes, by adoption. Romans 8:v.14-17

14 For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of ADOPTION, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.

16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: Aleluiaaaaa!

Ephesians 2:v.13-22

13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;

16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:

17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.

18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.

19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.