Types of Calvinists

[Jarthur001]

I will assume you are not talking about me. Posting a verse, (without changing any of it, or adding my own words to it, which is something you have done repeatedly), and asking you what it means is not taking it out of context, it is asking you what it means.

Good post. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Watch any NASCAR today?

God Bless...

 

[Blammo]

Good post. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

And a great reply by you as well. :applause:

 

[Brother Bob]

Then you must agree...

We should never change context.

We should never out God in a box.

I never change whosoever will, all, whomsoever, whole world. I wouldn't change them for nothing for to do so a man would be in danger of the plagues or having his name removed from the Lamb's book of life.

 

[npetreley]

We should never out God in a box.

I assume this was a typo, but what did you mean to say? That we should never put God in a box? Or that we should never let Him out? I see mostly the latter on this board.

 

[Jarthur001]

I never change whosoever will, all, whomsoever, whole world. I wouldn't change them for nothing for to do so a man would be in danger of the plagues or having his name removed from the Lamb's book of life.

Nor do Calvinist....so...

Then you must agree...

We should never change context.

We should never put God in a box.


Yes..typo..thanks.

 

[Brother Bob]

so...

Then you must agree...

We should never change context.

We should never out God in a box.

No, and go ahead and post what you are getting to and I will show you where you misquoted me.

James;Good post. :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
(without changing any of it, or adding my own words to it, which is something you have done repeatedly)
He said it was good quote when you told him it was him.

 

[Blammo]

He said it was good quote when you told him it was him.

Must have been another "typo" :smilewinkgrin:

 

[Jarthur001]

No, and go ahead and post what you are getting to and I will show you where you misquoted me.

Bob,

Let me make sure I understand you.

are you saying it is ok to change context?

are you saying it is ok to limit Gods power?

James;Good post.
(without changing any of it, or adding my own words to it, which is something you have done repeatedly)
He said it was good quote when you told him it was him.

humm...indeed he did. Now why would I say such a thing? One word...sarcasm.

 

[Jarthur001]

Must have been another "typo" :smilewinkgrin:

yes...over your head too.



We had 2-3 days of great debate...and now...well...

Thanks for another good point Blammo. How was the race today?

 

[Brother Bob]

Bob,

Let me make sure I understand you.

are you saying it is ok to change context?

are you saying it is ok to limit Gods power?

Quote:
James;Good post.
(without changing any of it, or adding my own words to it, which is something you have done repeatedly)
He said it was good quote when you told him it was him.

humm...indeed he did. Now why would I say such a thing? One word...sarcasm.

I can think of another word.

No, I never said you could change anything about the Scriptures and you know better before even asking such a question. Now to get back to debating ask some civil questions.

 

[Jarthur001]

I can think of another word.

No, I never said you could change anything about the Scriptures and you know better before even asking such a question. Now to get back to debating ask some civil questions.

so i ask you for the 4th time...


Then you must agree...

We should never change context.

We should never put God in a box.

 

[Brother Bob]

so i ask you for the 4th time...


Then you must agree...

We should never change context.

We should never put God in a box.

So, I will answer you the 4th time no we should never change context. A lot on here don't know what the context is. I don't know what you mean by putting God in a box for I don't know anyone who can put God anywhere.

 

[Jarthur001]

So, I will answer you the 4th time no we should never change context. A lot on here don't know what the context is. I don't know what you mean by putting God in a box for I don't know anyone who can put God anywhere.

I was asking if you agreed...and if you do agree the answer would be yes..not no. The one point you agreed too was one of two points I made. The other point.."God in the Box"...you do not understand..for you never took the time to read the post. Yet you take the time to argue that I was wrong.

This happens all the time Bob. You start posting your reply after reading one line. If you do not read a post this is only a waste of time when you reply with silly points already covered.


Which reminds me of a story about hens teeth. But...I'll not tell it now.

 

[Blammo]

yes...over your head too.



We had 2-3 days of great debate...and now...well...

Thanks for another good point Blammo. How was the race today?

Yes, it went right over my head. I didn't even get it. I really thought it might be a typo. (All sarcasm ya know)

 

[Jarthur001]

Yes, it went right over my head. I didn't even get it. I really thought it might be a typo. (All sarcasm ya know)

Getting back to the subject..

So what type of Calvinist are you Blammo?

Which if any of the points do you agree with?

 

[Brother Bob]

I was asking if you agreed...and if you do agree the answer would be yes..not no. The one point you agreed too was one of two points I made. The other point.."God in the Box"...you do not understand..for you never took the time to read the post. Yet you take the time to argue that I was wrong.

This happens all the time Bob. You start posting your reply after reading one line. If you do not read a post this is only a waste of time when you reply with silly points already covered.


Which reminds me of a story about hens teeth. But...I'll not tell it now.

Oh James, and you wonder why you get into so much trouble. Some of your posts are so long I wouldn't study them if you paid me because when I get to the end I almost always disagree. I believe in getting to the meat say it and then let someone answer. I don't believe in telling a tale about your grandpa, grandma or someone you knew long ago. I don't have the time.

If Blammo is a Calvinist then I am a holywood star.

 

[Blammo]

Getting back to the subject..

So what type of Calvinist are you Blammo?

Which if any of the points do you agree with?

I agree with Eternal Security. I think that is the "P" in your TULIP. But, I am not a calvinist, I am a christian.

 

[Blammo]

Originally Posted by Jarthur001
Romans 8:28-30

And we (paul talking to believer) know that all things work together for good to them that love God,(loving God is a sign of those that believe God) to them who are the called(elected before the world was made) according to his (God)purpose. (God chooses whom he will)For whom he (God)did foreknow, (before the world) he (God) also did predestinate (had a plan of salvation where the destination is known before hand)to be conformed (changed) to the image of his Son, (like unto)that he (Christ)might be the firstborn (1st one of the new birth) among many brethren. (The believers at the 1st of the verse) Moreover whom he (Christ) did predestinate, (had a plan of salvation where the destination is known before hand)them he (God) also called: (elected) and whom he(God) called, (elected) them he (God)also justified: (sins coved under the blood and made just as if you have never sinned) and whom he (God) justified, (sins coved under the blood and made just as if you have never sinned)them (the believers at the 1st of the verse) he (God) also glorified. (will one day bring to glory)Indeed it is.

Just so you don't think I'm being unfair. Notice how much of the above verses have been totally changed by you. You changed "called" to "elected before the world was made". You tell us what "God did predestinate" us to even though it doesn't agree with what the verse already says. So, before you go accusing others of not respecting the word of God, show it some respect yourself.

 

[Jarthur001]

Oh James, and you wonder why you get into so much trouble. Some of your posts are so long I wouldn't study them if you paid me because when I get to the end I almost always disagree. I believe in getting to the meat say it and then let someone answer. I don't believe in telling a tale about your grandpa, grandma or someone you knew long ago. I don't have the time.

My grandmother and grandfather was dead before I was born. This is the 1st post I have made on them. I do not claim to be a writer, but others are able to read and reply. I knew you do not read them by what you ask. Yet you post as if you KNOW...only showing you do not. I don't have the time, for all you care about is to argue your point. How many threads have you closed down? How many threads have you wasted pages up on pages of nothing...just like what just happen. All because you do not read. Not just mine. I have seen theis done many many times.


So...you say your a one point Calvinist. Tell me again what point that is?

 

[Jarthur001]

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Just so you don't think I'm being unfair. Notice how much of the above verses have been totally changed by you. You changed "called" to "elected before the world was made". You tell us what "God did predestinate" us to even though it doesn't agree with what the verse already says. So, before you go accusing others of not respecting the word of God, show it some respect yourself.

the context was not changed. You can use whatever words you want..just so you do not change the context. Understand? yet?