UK 80% vaxxed, having major outbreaks of covid and hospitalizations

[Scott Downey]

Pandemic of the Vaccinated: Covid Hospitalizations Up 8-Fold Compared to Last Year in Super-Vaxxed UK (noqreport.com)

So comical yet sad too. Since the vaccine is not working like they wanted, they still have to do all the anti-covid things, masks, distancing, contact tracing, maybe even lock downs again.
Analysis: Hospital strain to test UK's vaccine-based winter COVID plan | Reuters

Notice this telling statement here from Reuters,

But while 81.3% of people over 16 have received two vaccine doses, there are currently 8,340 COVID-19 patients in hospital in Britain, compared to just 1,066 a year ago.

 

[Scott Downey]

Once everyone is vaccinated, it cant be denied, that covid has become a pandemic of the vaccinated! Over 80% is pretty close to fully vaxed for the population.
In England, hundreds of vaccinated people hospitalised with Delta | United Kingdom News | Al Jazeera

Hundreds of fully vaccinated people in England have been hospitalised with the highly contagious Delta coronavirus variant, scientists said on Friday.

In their latest COVID-19 update, Public Health England (PHE) experts also warned there were early signs that people who have been inoculated may be able to transmit the Delta strain as easily as those who have not received any jabs.

From July 19 to August 2, 55.1 percent of the 1,467 people hospitalised with the Delta variant were unvaccinated, PHE said, while 34.9 percent – or 512 people – had received two doses.

Dubbed “freedom day”, July 19 was the date England significantly eased lockdown restrictions.
About 75 percent of the UK’s adult population has received two shots to date.

“As more of the population gets vaccinated, we will see a higher relative percentage of vaccinated people in hospital,” PHE said.

 

[Scott Downey]

And I really have doubts about official government statistics, don't you?

 

[JonC]

Apparently the vaccine is working in the UK.

Covid deaths among the vaccinated are "rare" (in comparison to the unvaccinated).

Of the 51,281 deaths involving Covid registered in England between 2 January and 2 July 2021:

• 640 (1.2%) were people who had received both vaccine doses
• This total includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated
• Some 458 deaths (0.8%) were people who died at least 21 days after their second dose
• Just 256 deaths (0.5%) were people who were both fully vaccinated and who had their first positive PCR test at least 14 days after their second dose

Covid deaths rare among fully vaccinated - ONS


September 15 saw a 24.4% decrease in positive cases.

 

[Scott Downey]

Thread is not about deaths, simply the epidemic and the vaccine inter relationship.
This coming winter, if we can trust the numbers, should show increasingly this is a pandemic of the vaxxed.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

In Scotland 70% of COVID deaths and 58% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated.

 

[Scott Downey]

In Scotland 70% of COVID deaths and 58% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated.

My prediction is that will happen here in USA and really all over the more vaxxed the population % becomes.
I read some nasty numbers coming out of Singapore too and they are heavily vaxxed.

 

[JonC]

In Scotland 70% of COVID deaths and 58% of the hospitalized are fully vaccinated.

Yes....but what the percentage do not show is that the majority of people in Scotland are vaccinated, hospitalizations and deaths have dropped substantially.

If the US were 100% then 100% of the hospitalizations and deaths would be vaccinated.

That does not mean the vaccine does not work. The fact the hospitalizations and deaths have decreased as vaccinations increased proves the opposite.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

Yes....but what the percentage do not show is that the majority of people in Scotland are vaccinated, hospitalizations and deaths have dropped substantially.

If the US were 100% then 100% of the hospitalizations and deaths would be vaccinated.

That does not mean the vaccine does not work. The fact the hospitalizations and deaths have decreased as vaccinations increased proves the opposite.

Wow, you turn bad news about the jabs into good news. That's quite a trick. The vaxxed are dying and having serious injuries. That's the case internationally.

 

[JonC]

Wow, you turn bad news about the jabs into good news. That's quite a trick. The vaxxed are dying and having serious injuries. That's the case internationally.

That is because it is not bad news about the vaccine. It is just statistics.

More people have been vaccinated, deathscand hospitalizations have sharply decreased, most of the covid cases have been vaccinated.

It only makes sense.

If 100% were vaccinated resulting in low hospitalizations and deaths then the vaccine worked. But at the same time 100% of the hospitalized and dead would be vaccinated.

Your post is data manuplation to arrive at a false conclusion (you use select data to paint misinformation).

 

[RipponRedeaux]

More people have died from these latest 'vaccines' (and they are not vaccines in reality) than all the deaths from all the vaccines of the last 30 years.

 

[JonC]

More people have died from these latest 'vaccines' (and they are not vaccines in reality) than all the deaths from all the vaccines of the last 30 years.

There is no data to support this claim (yet). But given that vaccinations started with the elderly and immunocompromised it would be amazing if many who were vaccinated have died.

The only unusual deaths thus far have been the 3 people who died after the Janssen. The JJ has shown to carry a risk not initially identified of a rare and serious adverse event—blood clots with low platelets.

That said, 7,653 deaths have occurred after vaccination. This is out of over 380,000,000 vaccines (a .002%). However, this number reflects total deaths to include those not directly linked to the vaccine.

for example, a 93 year old man vaccinated in December 2020 dies in March 2021. Thus is counted as a post-vaccine death even if there is no evidence death was related to the vaccine..

There have been deaths associated with the risks inherent with vaccines (most notably anaphylaxis).

But the anti-covid-vaxers cannot complain. There have been over 38,000,000 covid cases with over 600,000 deaths (1.58% chances of death with the virus). If 1.58% is too little to cause concern then .002% should be much more less a concern.

 

[RipponRedeaux]

That said, 7,653 deaths have occurred after vaccination. .

No, you are wrong. According to VAERS, 14,701 Americans have died as a direct result of getting the jab. An average of 70 people are dying daily because of the jab.

And VAERS is lowballing it. It's estimated that the real numbers are at least 100 times what VAERS has reported.

 

[JonC]

No, you are wrong. According to VAERS, 14,701 Americans have died as a direct result of getting the jab. An average of 70 people are dying daily because of the jab.

And VAERS is lowballing it. It's estimated that the real numbers are at least 100 times what VAERS has reported.

Misinformation.

VARES does not, nor has it ever, linked death to vaccines. VAERS does not determine cause of death. VAERS is a reporting organization accountable to the CDC and FDA. They compile data.

 

[Revmitchell]

No, you are wrong. According to VAERS, 14,701 Americans have died as a direct result of getting the jab. An average of 70 people are dying daily because of the jab.

And VAERS is lowballing it. It's estimated that the real numbers are at least 100 times what VAERS has reported.

interesting where did you get that bigger number from

 

[JonC]

interesting where did you get that bigger number from

His data is incorrect (and VAERS smiles not determine whether the effect is caused by the vaccine.

Anyway- look for yourself (this applies to everybody).

You can download data from VAERS.

The measles vaccine, by, has a lot more reported incidents than all covid vaccines combined. Tge flu vaccines are up there as well.

 

[Andre]

Once everyone is vaccinated, it cant be denied, that covid has become a pandemic of the vaccinated! Over 80% is pretty close to fully vaxed for the population..

Of course, but we all know when you use the phrase "pandemic of the vaccinated" you mean to cynically promote the idea that that the vaccine is either not working or even makes things work.

And that is not the case of course. Here in Canada an unvaccinated person is forty (40) times as likely to end up in the hospital as compared to a vaccinated person.

Now then, is this really a pandemic of the vaccinated?

 

[Marooncat79]

Remember when Democrats were saying that they would not get vaccinated due to Trump being Prez?

now, they endorse it

 

[Wingman68]

Apparently the vaccine is working in the UK.

Covid deaths among the vaccinated are "rare" (in comparison to the unvaccinated).

Of the 51,281 deaths involving Covid registered in England between 2 January and 2 July 2021:

• 640 (1.2%) were people who had received both vaccine doses
• This total includes people who had been infected before they were vaccinated
• Some 458 deaths (0.8%) were people who died at least 21 days after their second dose
• Just 256 deaths (0.5%) were people who were both fully vaccinated and who had their first positive PCR test at least 14 days after their second dose

Covid deaths rare among fully vaccinated - ONS


September 15 saw a 24.4% decrease in positive cases.

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Rare, he says, it’s rare because they say it is, not because it is at all rare.

 

[Andre]

Remember when Democrats were saying that they would not get vaccinated due to Trump being Prez?

now, they endorse it

You have quite the imagination.

Of course, reality has a different opinion.