UK Police Hunt Down Citizens for Speaking Out Against Grooming Gangs

[ChrisTheSaved]

Although you're right, assuming he had relations with his wife

I like where you're going with this

 

[Alcott]

So if someone says on FB "Kill the Jews", you're fine with that? Seriously??

No, but you are quite obviously fine with a "holy book" that says the kill the infidels if they refuse to be converted.

This whole thing is so preposterous that it's hard not to say the brits deserve the deaths they are going to face, and have faced. Why do you want everyone except mizzlumms arrested for inciting death?

 

[Wingman68]

You want people ARRESTED for making comments on Facebook. Do you understand that's Nazi 101?! Do you understand you undercut your own freedoms when you do this?!

Glad you answered while capturing a screen shot before the edit. Amusing & telling. Bless their heart. The animus must be hard to contain.

 

[Wingman68]

Shouting "fire" in a crowded theatre is freedom of speech then.

(It's also murder in my book but, heck, don't let Christian ethics get in the way of your argument.)

At one point, the law criminalized such speech, as shouting fire in a crowded theatre, but since 1969 for speech to break the law, it can’t merely lead others to dangerous situations, it must directly encourage others to commit specific criminal actions of their own. US law. Not UK law.
I have no idea what the UK is thinking or doing these days. I’m not sure they do either.

 

[Wingman68]

Amen. Name calling is never productive. In the U S, you can say whatever you want, but if you are inciting violence, you are breaking the law.

God Bless you!

Hahaha! Is this a tongue in cheek about the edits?

 

[Matt Black]

No, but you are quite obviously fine with a "holy book" that says the kill the infidels if they refuse to be converted.

Because of course the Bible contains no such verses inciting violence if read literally, does it? You 'fine' with that?

This whole thing is so preposterous

Yes, you are being preposterous

. Why do you want everyone except mizzlumms arrested for inciting death?

I thought you were OK with people inciting death, 1st Amendment and all that. It's us Brits who are the fascists arresting people for inciting violence, apparently. I think you're getting a bit confused.

 

[Matt Black]

At one point, the law criminalized such speech, as shouting fire in a crowded theatre, but since 1969 for speech to break the law, it can’t merely lead others to dangerous situations, it must directly encourage others to commit specific criminal actions of their own. US law. Not UK law.
I have no idea what the UK is thinking or doing these days. I’m not sure they do either.

Trouble is, we value the right to life above the right to say what you want. Sorry about that

 

[Wingman68]

Trouble is, we value the right to life above the right to say what you want. Sorry about that

What is your abortion policy in the UK? Not saying ours is anything but abysmal, just want to know how yours stacks up with your right to life statement.

 

[Matt Black]

On abortion we're no better or worse than you, sadly. But at least on the incitement front, we have it right.

 

[ChrisTheSaved]

Trouble is, we value the right to life above the right to say what you want. Sorry about that

Shocking. Is preaching the gospel so enraging to Muslims that it should be a crime?

 

[ChrisTheSaved]

My 1st husband (now deceased) and son were/are black. I grew up in the Potrero Housing Project with O J Simpson. I spent 20 years in the Navy defending my country. I then taught in an elementary school designed for migrant families.

I however am not offended, you are a sinner just like the rest of us.

James 1:26English Standard Version (ESV)

26 If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart, this person's religion is worthless.

But you are right about one thing. I reported your post.

None of that means you can relate to being black. It's like saying I have a black friend. I was a Marine btw, so the whole I served my country thing only goes so far....

My whole point was lost on you. Stop acting as if you're some plantation master for minorities, as if we can not answer for ourselves. If an actual minority is offended by something please let us say so, I don't need white people saying what's offensive for us.

 

[Matt Black]

Shocking. Is preaching the gospel so enraging to Muslims that it should be a crime?

It isn't. Just don't be an obnoxious jerk when you're doing it like call for Muslims to be killed. How difficult is that?

 

[Alcott]

Because of course the Bible contains no such verses inciting violence if read literally, does it? You 'fine' with that?

Yep. And it does not authorize violence to further the gospel. It did to the Israelites taking the retaining the land, even to the point of genocide. Have you ever told God he was wrong there?

Yes, you are being preposterous I thought you were OK with people inciting death, 1st Amendment and all that. It's us Brits who are the fascists arresting people for inciting violence, apparently. I think you're getting a bit confused.

I am for equal treatment of differing beliefs. Meaning it is absolutely preposterous to arrest anyone for inciting violence against those whose beliefs incite violence. Both or none.

 

[ChrisTheSaved]

It isn't. Just don't be an obnoxious jerk when you're doing it like call for Muslims to be killed. How difficult is that?

They are not calling for them to be killed...that a lie. They are merely saying that this is what Islam is, rape and hate. They are being arrested for stuff as mundane as saying they should be kicked out.

 

[Wingman68]

Glad you answered while capturing a screen shot before the edit. Amusing & telling. Bless their heart. The animus must be hard to contain.

OK-this is a first, replying to my own answer?! I was talking about the screen shot in his post that read:
‘Here’s a thought for your little head (now edited): They probably know a lot more about the situation than you do.
And your stupid (now edited) soyboys comment tells everyone that you are listening to the wrong people.’

 

[Matt Black]

They are not calling for them to be killed...that a lie. They are merely saying that this is what Islam is, rape and hate. They are being arrested for stuff as mundane as saying they should be kicked out.

Trouble is, neither the Breitbart article referenced in the OP nor any other articles I've tried to track down tell us what the individuals who were warned about their comments (no-one has been arrested BTW, that much I can tell you) actually said. I'm therefore not able to tell you whether their remarks were offensive but legal, or offensive and illegal. Unless you have access to sites I don't, you don't know what they said either

 

[Matt Black]

Yep. And it does not authorize violence to further the gospel. It did to the Israelites taking the retaining the land, even to the point of genocide. Have you ever told God he was wrong there?

No I don't need to because, although your interpretation of the OT genocide (not 'merely' violence and murder but actual chuffing genocide, the sort of stuff that Hitler and the Rwandans got off on) has justified violence by Christians in the past, mine does not.

I am for equal treatment of differing beliefs. Meaning it is absolutely preposterous to arrest anyone for inciting violence against those whose beliefs incite violence. Both or none.

And when you can show that their sacred texts can justify and are responsible for violence more than ours, get back to me

 

[Katarina Von Bora]

None of that means you can relate to being black. It's like saying I have a black friend. I was a Marine btw, so the whole I served my country thing only goes so far....

My whole point was lost on you. Stop acting as if you're some plantation master for minorities, as if we can not answer for ourselves. If an actual minority is offended by something please let us say so, I don't need white people saying what's offensive for us.

I addressed your mean-spirited post in the way it deserved. It was ignored as completely unchristian and not in keeping with the scriptures.

You don't know me, you assume things that are all wrong. There is a difference between saying "I have a black friend" trying to demonstrate some kind of statement about not being a racist, but an 18 year marriage and two children demonstrates exactly what I believe. Ever lived in a housing project? I have.

 

[thatbrian]

Bye, then; no-one's forcing you to post here

It's my thread.

 

[ChrisTheSaved]

I addressed your mean-spirited post in the way it deserved. It was ignored as completely unchristian and not in keeping with the scriptures.

You don't know me, you assume things that are all wrong. There is a difference between saying "I have a black friend" trying to demonstrate some kind of statement about not being a racist, but an 18 year marriage and two children demonstrates exactly what I believe. Ever lived in a housing project? I have.

You're trying way to hard...we get it you're not a racist. ;|