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UK Police Hunt Down Citizens for Speaking Out Against Grooming Gangs

thatbrian

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Show me where.

It's a criminal offence here (and has been for many many years; this is scarcely a 'new thing' so not sure why y'all are getting so exercised about it) to threaten, incite or otherwise encourage others to commit a crime including a crime of violence. That's what the police (going back to the OP) are worried about: that individuals going round saying the likes of "all Muslims are kiddie-fiddlers and rapists" is more likely to result in a crime of violence being committed against a Muslim.
 

Matt Black

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They're concerned about it but merely saying "all Muslims are pedos" in and of itself is not an offence. However, if you commit an act or threat of violence, or encourage others to do so, while simultaneously saying those words, those words aggravate the offence committed.

Have I been clear enough for you now?

[ETA: I suspect that's why no one's been arrested in the incidents referred to in the OP: although we don't know what exactly was said, I suspect it fell short of an offence, yet the police were sufficiently worried that it could lead others to escalate things (don't forget that they have a general duty to try to preserve the peace) that that they had a word with the posters and asked them to back off; they couldn't arrest them because no crime had actually been committed.]
 

ChrisTheSaved

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Then they are ignorant of the law. Even the statement (assuming it is indeed from the Met, of which you have adduced no evidence) is contradictory: they say on the one hand that it's not against the law (in which case no offence has been committed) but then in the same breath talk about charging them (which they can only do if an offence has been committed ); which is it?

I'd have had a field day with them in court.


You are so weird Matt.

You say, oh they never would do that.

I post where they say the will.

You say, you have not included proof.

I provide proof of all their polices and you still claim to the contrary.

They are super clear you don't have to commit a crime if you are acting in a racist manor. They say it not me.
 

thatbrian

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They're concerned about it but merely saying "all Muslims are pedos" in and of itself is not an offence. However, if you commit an act or threat of violence, or encourage others to do so, while simultaneously saying those words, those words aggravate the offence committed.

Have I been clear enough for you now?

[ETA: I suspect that's why no one's been arrested in the incidents referred to in the OP: although we don't know what exactly was said, I suspect it fell short of an offence, yet the police were sufficiently worried that it could lead others to escalate things (don't forget that they have a general duty to try to preserve the peace) that that they had a word with the posters and asked them to back off; they couldn't arrest them because no crime had actually been committed.]

Doublespeak.
 

Matt Black

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You are so weird Matt.

You say, oh they never would do that.

I post where they say the will.

You say, you have not included proof.

I provide proof of all their polices and you still claim to the contrary.

They are super clear you don't have to commit a crime if you are acting in a racist manor. They say it not me.
Proof? Proof of what? Show me.
 

Matt Black

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Read the article: she only found out about her partner's sordid activities after she lost the baby; losing the baby was caused by the stress of the verbal abuse. I'm pro-life; are you?
 

Matt Black

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Pregnancy was healthy up until the Nazis showed up. Panic attacks and miscarriage afterwards. Blood on their hands.
 

777

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Oh, this case . . . first off, she wasn't even married to the rapist, yet she already had two older kids, three and eighteen months. and was pregnant again. And she didn't get rid of the guy until he was convicted and she had no other choice:

Kelli dumped Rahmani - father of her two boys - when he was convicted of raping a 16-year-old girl.

Mum recalls Britain First hate that led to stillborn birth

I do feel sorry for it happening in front of the children but not so much for her - she was probably already in shock being shacked up with this thing:

Here's why the Ramsgate rapists were not deported immediately

and one miscarriage, induced or not, can't cancel out thousands of rapes.
 

777

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And I'm sorry that you can dismiss the torture and gang rape of teen aged British girls so lightly.
 
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