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UMC Denounces Bible

Oseas3

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As about as bad as it gets...

Underneath his coat, he is wearing a T-shirt with a colorful sodomy print.
No surprise, it is the literal fulfillment of 2 Corinthians 11:13-15, as follow:

13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself->(the tree of good and evil->(Genesis 3:22 and 2Thessalonians 2:3-4 and 9-12 combined with Genesis 3:1-11, mainly Revelation 12:9, take a look) is transformed into an angel of light. (light-> Psalms 119:105)
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers->(MINISTERS OF DEVIL) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end->(Revelation 21:8, among others biblical references) shall be according to their works.

Matthew 25:6-10->I highlight v.6->At midnight (at the turn from the sixth to the seventh and last Day or seventh and last millenium) there was a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him. ->Matthew 7:13-19 and 23:->13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

23And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Matt.25:46->And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
 

Oseas3

Well-Known Member
Greetings in Christ JESUS

Brothers ans sisters

I believe my brothers and sisters—all of you here—know that King David had prepared many materials for the construction of the Temple—the house of GOD—with all his might, as described below:

1 Chronicles 29 - King James Version
29 Furthermore David the king said unto all the congregation(Church of Israel), Solomon my son, whom alone God hath chosen, is yet young and tender, and the work is great: for the palace is not for man, but for the Lord GOD.
2 Now I have prepared with all my might for the house of my GOD the gold for things to be made of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and the brass for things of brass, the iron for things of iron, and wood for things of wood; onyx stones, and stones to be set, glistering stones, and of divers colours, and all manner of precious stones, and marble stones in abundance.
3 Moreover, because I have set my affection to the house of my GOD, I have of mine own proper good, of gold and silver, which I have given to the house of my God, over and above all that I have prepared for the holy house.
4 Even three thousand talents of gold, of the gold of Ophir, and seven thousand talents of refined silver, to overlay the walls of the houses withal:
5 The gold for things of gold, and the silver for things of silver, and for all manner of work to be made by the hands of artificers. And who then is willing to consecrate his service this day unto the Lord?
6 Then the chief of the fathers and princes of the tribes of Israel and the captains of thousands and of hundreds, with the rulers of the king's work, offered willingly,
7 And gave for the service of the house of GOD of gold five thousand talents and ten thousand drams, and of silver ten thousand talents, and of brass eighteen thousand talents, and one hundred thousand talents of iron.
8 And they with whom precious stones were found gave them to the treasure of the house of the Lord, by the hand of Jehiel the Gershonite.
9 Then the people rejoiced, for that they offered willingly, because with perfect heart they offered willingly to the Lord: and David the king also rejoiced with great joy.
10 Wherefore David blessed the Lord before all the congregation: and David said, Blessed be thou, Lord God of Israel our father, for ever and ever.
11 Thine, O Lord is the greatness, and the power, and the glory, and the victory, and the majesty: for all that is in the heaven and in the earth is thine; thine is the kingdom, O Lord, and thou art exalted as head above all.
12 Both riches and honour come of thee, and thou reignest over all; and in thine hand is power and might; and in thine hand it is to make great, and to give strength unto all.
13 Now therefore, our GOD, we thank thee, and praise thy glorious name.
14 But who am I, and what is my people, that we should be able to offer so willingly after this sort? for all things come of thee, and of thine own have we given thee.

15 For we are strangers before thee, and sojourners, as were all our fathers: our days on the earth are as a shadow, and there is none abiding.
16 O Lord our GOD, all this store that we have prepared to build thee an house for thine holy name cometh of thine hand, and is all thine own.
17 I know also, my GOD, that thou triest the heart, and hast pleasure in uprightness. As for me, in the uprightness of mine heart I have willingly offered all these things: and now have I seen with joy thy people, which are present here, to offer willingly unto thee.
18 O Lord GOD of Abraham, Isaac, and of Israel, our fathers, keep this for ever in the imagination of the thoughts of the heart of thy people, and prepare their heart unto thee:
19 And give unto Solomon my son a perfect heart, to keep thy commandments, thy testimonies, and thy statutes, and to do all these things, and to build the palace, for the which I have made provision.
20 And David said to all the congregation, Now bless the Lord your GOD. And all the congregation blessed the Lord GOD of their fathers, and bowed down their heads, and worshipped the Lord, and the king.
21 And they sacrificed sacrifices unto the Lord, and offered burnt offerings unto the Lord, on the morrow after that day, even a thousand bullocks, a thousand rams, and a thousand lambs, with their drink offerings, and sacrifices in abundance for all Israel:
22 And did eat and drink before the Lord on that day with great gladness. And they made Solomon the son of David king the second time, and anointed him unto the Lord to be the chief governor, and Zadok to be priest.
23 Then Solomon sat on the throne of the Lord as king instead of David his father, and prospered; and all Israel obeyed him.
24 And all the princes, and the mighty men, and all the sons likewise of king David, submitted themselves unto Solomon the king.

25 And the Lord magnified Solomon exceedingly in the sight of all Israel, and bestowed upon him such royal majesty as had not been on any king before him in Israel.
Matthew 21:1and 4-5 -> 1 And when they drew nigh unto Jerusalem, and were come to Bethphage, unto the mount of Olives, then sent Jesus two disciples,
4 All this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying,

5 Tell ye the daughter of Sion, Behold, thy King cometh unto thee, meek, and sitting upon an ass, and a colt the foal of an ass.



The Word is GOD.

GOD bless all His people around the whole world.
Amen.
 
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rockytopva

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Why the UMC Methodist Church is in trouble in their own words...

On our current course, the denomination’s motto of “Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors” is quickly being transformed into a less welcoming recruitment message of “Join the UMC — But Only If You Agree With Our Politics.” - Why our church is in trouble | UMNews.org

Agree with their politics?
 

rockytopva

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Site Supporter
Why the UMC Methodist Church is in trouble in their own words...

On our current course, the denomination’s motto of “Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors” is quickly being transformed into a less welcoming recruitment message of “Join the UMC — But Only If You Agree With Our Politics.” - Why our church is in trouble | UMNews.org

Agree with their politics?
Even with... Open Hearts, Open Minds, Open Doors?

I can just hear the leadership of that teaching rebuking me for being overly negative and judgemental.
 

Foxmeister

Active Member
You have the wrong stating point,women do not cause the falling away they are the result of men having fallen away already.
If a church fails to follow scripture and allows women to be pastors in their church, then it's only natural that will likely lead to other things the church will do that violates the God's Word. The UMC, Church of Christ, Presbyterians, Episcopal, and others first allowed women to be pastors, and now they allow homosexuals to be pastors.
 

Silverhair

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If a church fails to follow scripture and allows women to be pastors in their church, then it's only natural that will likely lead to other things the church will do that violates the God's Word. The UMC, Church of Christ, Presbyterians, Episcopal, and others first allowed women to be pastors, and now they allow homosexuals to be pastors.

But you seem to have looked past what the real problem is. Male pastors chose to allow women pastors. The problem started with the men's failure to uphold the word of God.

If the male leadership had said NO then you would not have the problem in the first place.
 

Foxmeister

Active Member
But you seem to have looked past what the real problem is. Male pastors chose to allow women pastors. The problem started with the men's failure to uphold the word of God.

If the male leadership had said NO then you would not have the problem in the first place.
What denominations allowed homosexual to be pastors before allowing women to be pastors?
 
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Silverhair

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What denominations allowed homosexual to be pastors before allowing women to be pastors?

The only one that I know of that did so was the RCC. There may have been others but you are still stepping past the real issue.

Before there were women pastors there were only men in that position. If those men had not allowed women pastors then would there be any?
 

Foxmeister

Active Member
The only one that I know of that did so was the RCC. There may have been others but you are still stepping past the real issue.

Before there were women pastors there were only men in that position. If those men had not allowed women pastors then would there be any?
You're reading way into what I'm saying. I'll make it easier to understand. It was against God's Word to allow women to be pastors in the church. That's a phase of the church falling away. Then allowing homosexuals to be pastors in the church is also against God's Word. The church continuing to fall away from the Word of God.
 

Silverhair

Well-Known Member
You're reading way into what I'm saying. I'll make it easier to understand. It was against God's Word to allow women to be pastors in the church. That's a phase of the church falling away. Then allowing homosexuals to be pastors in the church is also against God's Word. The church continuing to fall away from the Word of God.
I am not disagreeing with you but you seem to miss the point that it was the men that allowed the women into that position.

And you asked if there were problems in the church prior to the women pastors and I pointed to the RCC.
 
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