Not all sinners are put down in the Lambs, but only those God chose to save in Christ!
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Unlimited Atonement
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no , we do not find names added to the Book when saved but not removed from the Book when one overcomes the world to repent. Those who do not repent are "blotted" out
Please included verses, I do not follow.
1689Dave
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Revelation is a book of symbols. We know of our salvation because we live a saved lifestyle. So the warnings are instrumental in our perseverance. But According to John none of the elect will ever be lost. We always overcome sin.
no, we all lost , then were saved when repentant at belief . This secured our names from not being removed.
1689Dave
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How does one have their name removed from the book of life?
Rev 3:5
He that overcometh, (ie maybe The Cares of the World) the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of thebook of this prophecy, God shall take away his part outof the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from thethings which are written in this book.
He that overcometh, (ie maybe The Cares of the World) the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Rev 22:19
And if any man shall take away from the words of thebook of this prophecy, God shall take away his part outof the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from thethings which are written in this book.
God Himself writes the names of all whom he will ave from eternity past, and none gte blotted out, as he makes sure, per Romans 8, that all He saved stay saved!
Even if we fail to do that always, he is faithful and true to us!
2 Timothy 2:13
What saves us? the blood of Christ, not our behavior!
The saved will overcome, not by their own efforts and works, but due to them being now secured in Chriust, and the Holy Spirit will never unseal Himself from us!
I think our names are written when we are created, which in my case is eternity past.
Only the redeemed of the Lord!
How can one's name be blotted out if only the elect are in the Book?
HopefulNChrist
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John 3:
Don't forget the effects of sin on nature and all living things. Since Jesus conquered death and hades by His resurrection, then something powerful happened when our Creator became our Redeemer on the cross.
So yes... it is by the power of the ransom of the cross that He can save all sinners BUT it can only be applied to those that believe in Him.
That means for the unbelievers out there, the power to save them is still available and all they have to do is believe in Him.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Once saved, new believers can learn of Him in His words and all His promises to us in living that reconciled relationship with God through Jesus Christ by trusting Him to be their Good Shepherd to help them lay aside every weight & sin in following Him so they can be received as a vessel unto honor in His House by the Bridegroom when He comes at the pre great trib rapture event.
Don't forget the effects of sin on nature and all living things. Since Jesus conquered death and hades by His resurrection, then something powerful happened when our Creator became our Redeemer on the cross.
So yes... it is by the power of the ransom of the cross that He can save all sinners BUT it can only be applied to those that believe in Him.
That means for the unbelievers out there, the power to save them is still available and all they have to do is believe in Him.
John 3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Once saved, new believers can learn of Him in His words and all His promises to us in living that reconciled relationship with God through Jesus Christ by trusting Him to be their Good Shepherd to help them lay aside every weight & sin in following Him so they can be received as a vessel unto honor in His House by the Bridegroom when He comes at the pre great trib rapture event.
Are you going to add something in this thread other than your, per usual, drive by pot shot post?
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This is my last word on this thread. My wife and I have a nice, relaxing motorcycle (Suzuki Boulevard 1500 for those curious)ride to Hot Springs that starts right after I get through with classes this morning. She is a much higher priority than arguing on a public forum.
Let me get this right...you start a subject that genders heat on a forum that genders heat, and when your position is exposed, compromised, has fallen flat, you tuck tail and run.
YOU started this thread and YOU should stay in it. Don’t run and hide on your Suzuki.
And this faith that is applied comes from God.
It is the cross plus their works that gains salvation. Hello works.
Rockson
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You're one to make such a charge to Pastor Bob when the other day you asked for your thread to be shut down with your following words,
I have already once asked for this thread to please be locked. It's fruitless.
So why couldn't we have said to you your position is exposed and has fallen flat and you tucked your tail and ran?
GOOD GRIEF! The man said he was going away on a vacation! He has to be subjected to such a foolish ludicrous insult like this? If anything shouldn't you have encouraged him to enjoy himself? Nope...bring out the axe! Grow up please! It might be nice to see some of that Grace you have in your name. Seriously.
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