Unscriptural - what does it mean?

[Salty]

1) The Bible command the action (Love your neighbor)

2) The Bible prohibits the action (Thou shall not murder)

3) The Bible gives suggestions (be not drunk with wine -Does not prohibit)

4) The Bible is silent ( should we use pianos in church }

( and please - DO not make these (and especially) #3 a debate issue - they are simply examples)

So here is my question - How would define Unscriptural?

Which of the above examples is an unScriptural action


Open for discussion

 

[kyredneck]

Unscriptural - what does it mean?

Example of 'unscriptural':

justification by faith alone

vs.

24 Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith. Ja 2

 

[Jordan Kurecki]

1) The Bible command the action (Love your neighbor)

2) The Bible prohibits the action (Thou shall not murder)

3) The Bible gives suggestions (be not drunk with wine -Does not prohibit)

4) The Bible is silent ( should we use pianos in church }

( and please - DO not make these (and especially) #3 a debate issue - they are simply examples)

So here is my question - How would define Unscriptural?

Which of the above examples is an unScriptural action


Open for discussion

 

[Deacon]

And out of that some make the case that drinking alcohol is 'unscriptural".

The word “unscriptural” more often relates to how one interprets Scripture rather than Scripture itself
It is often just a buzzword used to sway a debate in a particular direction (“I’m following Scripture, you’re unscriptural”).

Slavery – at various times in history there have been polar changes.

Evolution – Christians sit on both sides of a fence not built until the mid-1800’s

Sexuality – who would have guessed that there would be debates about this, and yet some (attempt to) make a scriptural case for things we can’t even mention here on the BB​

Rob

 

[JonC]

I define "unscriputral" as being opposed to, or not corresponding with, what is taught in Scripture (which, perhaps, is "anti" rather than "un"). Jesus suffered in Hell for our sins (Joyce Meyers doctrine) is un (anti) biblical. Baptismal regeneration is an un (anti) biblical doctrine. Both of these examples deny what Scripture teaches (they are opposed to what is taught in the Bible).

 

[kyredneck]

"anti" rather than "un"

Agree.

 

[Steven Yeadon]

Unscriptural (I use unbiblical) seems to be when you believe that something violates the morality of the bible, or when someone claims theology that you think has no biblical foundation. The problem here of course, is that the bible is a big set of books, in which you may be surprised to find things that fly in the face of your own beliefs. This includes finding out what you think is unscriptural is not, or understanding the bible on a deeper level as you interpret it better. Study of the bible, therefore requires the humility to admit when you interpret it wrong. Otherwise, Deacon has it right entirely.

 

[Deacon]

So having just read the "User Agreement" of the BB we see a little bit of definition.

"Use discretion when posting. Not all topics are beneficial or edifying to the board. Topics and/or posts that would condone racism, every form of greed, selfishness, and vice, and all forms of sexual immorality, including but not limited to adultery, homosexuality, and pornography are strictly prohibited. In addition, topics and/or posts that seek to promote clearly unscriptural and controversial social and moral positions, such as abortion, are prohibited as well."​

The words unscriptural and controversial seem to be connected in a way that make the term unscriptural related to a current socially acceptable way that Scripture is interpreted.

Rob

 

[rlvaughn]

Unscriptural - what does it mean?

So here is my question - How would define Unscriptural?

The most basic dictionary definitions of "unscriptural" center on the idea "not in accordance with the Scriptures." I would define it much that way, "not related to or not in accordance with the Holy Scriptures." By Holy Scriptures, I would mean the Christian Scriptures, the Holy Bible of the Old and New Testaments (the 66 books usually accepted in the "Protestant" realm). The first part of my definition makes it not exactly equivalent to anti-scriptural (opposed to or contradicting scripture) -- but 99.99% of the time I would use "unscriptural" in a negative sense, speaking of something that I believe is not right according to the definitions and teaching of the Scriptures (probably 100% of the time actually, if I weren't being equivocal ).

1) The Bible command the action (Love your neighbor)

2) The Bible prohibits the action (Thou shall not murder)

3) The Bible gives suggestions (be not drunk with wine -Does not prohibit)

4) The Bible is silent ( should we use pianos in church)

Which of the above examples is an unScriptural action

Not sure how well I am following you here. I agree that No. 1 is a scriptural command, and No. 2 is a scriptural prohibition. I don't think "be not drunk with wine" is just a suggestion but rather a command, but if you mean that the Bible does not prohibit all intake of wine, I would agree. No. 4, the Bible is silent on whether to use pianos in church? I think I agree, if I understand you correctly. (My interpretation of scripture is that a cappella singing is preferable, but not required.)

 

[atpollard]

un-scriptural = not scriptural = not of or related to the writings found in the Bible.

Example: Driving any car except a Honda is unscriptural (not covered by scripture).

[Acts 2:1 KJV] 1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one Accord in one place.

 

[SheepWhisperer]

And the Bible condones smoking........
Genesis 24:64
And Rebekah lifted up her eyes, and when she saw Isaac, she lighted off the camel.

 

[SheepWhisperer]

I thought I would present "unscriptural songs", as an example, but when I googled it, I came upon this.
Note* I haven't analyzed the following song so I won't attest to whether or not it is entirely scriptural, but would like to address a couple of the comments this author made about it. Let’s Stop Singing These 10 Worship Songs

5. "Above All"
Problem lyric: "Like a rose, trampled on the ground, you took the fall and thought of me above all"

This song is rather beautiful, until its last line - which is utterly man-centered. Pastor John Piper took that line to task: "He thought of his glory above all on the cross.....God always thinks of himself above us. He is always more important than us."

The Bible says that Jesus endured the cross "for the joy set before him"....
Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. Hebrews 12:2. Also, on the cross, Jesus must have been thinking of others, "above all", because he was saying things like "father forgive them for they know not what they do", and telling the thief "this day shalt thou be with me in paradise" and charging a disciple to care for his mother.
Then the author writes this, referring to the lyric....

...we were certainly not ''above all''

But the concept in the words "thought of me above all" is not meant to put man "above all". It is actually EXHALTING God. Why? Because it is stating the fact that God is "self less". "God is love" and God puts others first. Proof? The ONLY way one of us can "love our neighbor as our self" and to "love our enemies" is to be a spirit-filled child of God, The Bible says so. Matthew 5:43-48 So the the statement "he thought of his glory above all on the cross" is totally unscriptural. Being "unscriptural", I would define as putting forth a message, claiming it to be biblical, when it is not the message intended by the Author.

 

[Yeshua1]

Example of 'unscriptural':

justification by faith alone

vs.

24 Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith. Ja 2

Yes, the second one is not per the scriptures!
Saved by Grace alone, thru faith alone!

 

[Pastor DanL]

( and please - DO not make these (and especially) #3 a debate issue - they are simply examples)

Open for discussion

So having just read the "User Agreement" of the BB we see a little bit of definition.

The words unscriptural and controversial seem to be connected in a way that make the term unscriptural related to a current socially acceptable way that Scripture is interpreted.

Rob

The meaning of unscriptural is always going to cause a debate on any given examples in a public forum. On #3 as an example I think you can argue what "drunk" is and the legal definition is not the same every where, but it is not a suggestion but an instructional informational command "be not". I think one could argue that it only applies to wine (I think that would be ridiculous). It is teaching that one cannot be full of two things at the same time. The way I look at things is "It is not how far can we go and still be all right, but how right can we be". The Bible is clear on many things, and on some things not so much. We are instructed about sin.
Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? (KJV)
1 John 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. (KJV)

 

[kyredneck]

Yes, the second one is not per the scriptures

What are you saying? The book of James is not scripture?

24 Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith. Ja 2

This is not scripture?

 

[Yeshua1]

What are you saying? The book of James is not scripture?

24 Ye see that by works a man is justified, and not only by faith. Ja 2

This is not scripture?

No, that is indeed scriptures, but your understanding would not be, as James and paul agree,on Justification!

 

[Pastor DanL]

No, that is indeed scriptures, but your understanding would not be, as James and paul agree,on Justification!

Yes James and Paul agree! The difference is when and how mankind will see it.

 

[Yeshua1]

Yes James and Paul agree! The difference is when and how mankind will see it.

Paul was talking about us being justified before God, and James point was once justified, we should show that off before men by our good works...

 

[Pastor DanL]

Paul was talking about us being justified before God, and James point was once justified, we should show that off before men by our good works...

Exactly, or men would not see it!

 

[Yeshua1]

Exactly, or men would not see it!

Yes, as we cannot see the relationship with our eyes beteen you and God, but your lifestyle/deeds/words should reflect it so we can see it now!