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unvaccinated a threat to the nation, the LEFT now says

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Scott Downey

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And I’m not sure it will be your decision to get it or not. My brother works for a hospital as one of the I T personnel. He has no interaction with patients, in fact doesn’t work in the hospital building, but they force him to get tested for COVID each week... very unpleasant. Guess why!
It is not a government law saying you must be vaccinated for covid, yet. And being classified an experimental vaccine, how could they make it so.
I do see how a private run company may require it for work.
Heart inflammation is a serious side effect of the vaccine, blood clots and we dont know the long term consequences yet.

Supreme Court upheld mandatory state vaccine laws way back in 1905, if they want to, the government can force you to take the vaccine. Forcibly injected or maybe jail and fines? Typhoid Mary was forcibly isolated for decades by the state authorities being a health risk to everyone around her. Bureaucrats could decide the same with the unvaccinated for covid , put them in isolation camps.
Jacobson v. Massachusetts - Wikipedia
 
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Van

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Numbers can be used for purposes that are self serving. The bottom line is that many people simply do not believe the media or the medical system or the government, period. Should we trust them to give us the real numbers about how many vaccinated people are dying as a result of the shot? No. When we see a concerted effort to try to blame the folks that did not accept their experimental treatment there should be suspicion. Looking at over 800 deaths in a heat wave in BC for example, do we find out how many of these were vaccinated? No. Maybe it is 100% for all we know, and there may be some connection. Do we hear about all the cases where a sudden death or serious event happened just after being vaccinated? Not really for the most part. Do all medical professionals get equal treatment for their opinion on this issue? No way. There has obviously been an attempt to push one opinion. So why would anyone trust the supposed numbers they decide to release, or believe the actual causes for the numbers?? And even if some chose to refuse the experimental, abortion related so called vaccine, and did die or get sick, so what? The third largest cause of death is supposedly medical error. Then there are the millions of babies killed. I wonder if most or any of these people pushing the experimental treatments they like to call vaccines are vocal about kids being ushered/taught/coerced into changing their sex or killing their child against the wishes of a parent?
The number of people who died from Covid in June is not in dispute. The number is about 10,000. You did not cite a source for any number, as if nobody died of Covid. That is irrational nonsense, Sir.
 

kathleenmariekg

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I am one of the unvaccinated.

My reasons for not being vaccinated are not one of the blanket reasons listed by the media. I have had more than one serious encounter with someone that angrily insisted that I personally or "people like me" are personally endangering them.

I am worried where this is all going.

Some of these vaccine companies are on the verge of losing a lot of money. And they cannot be sued for anything they do to try and prevent such losses.

The blanket insistence that the vaccine is entirely safe for pregnant woman is one of my greatest concerns. I recently watched a documentary on the drug thalidomide. For all our technological advances we have not gotten any wiser or more careful than doctors and scientists of the past.
 

Van

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I don't know why people call us anti-vax. My family and I have every single one of our other vaccines. We don't bother with the Flu Vax when it comes out every year as we're in our mid-twenties and healthy as a horse. We don't bother with the COVID vax because:
1. My wife is pregnant and there has not been a decades-long study on the impact of the vaccine on unborn children, and the effect after they're born.

2. Issues with fluid buildup around the heart from the vaccine in young people. If I'm going to get sick from COVID with a 99% changes of survival, or I'm going to inject myself with an experimental vaccine with a 99% chance of survival, then I'll just take the COVID. I run a farm and I can't just get fluid buildup on the heart for 2 weeks or I lose hundreds upon hundreds of poultry.

3. My Church has never worn masks, most are unvaccinated. We had a COVID outbreak a couple months back. 2/3 of the Church got it including a pregnant woman who then labored with COVID, an 87 year old elderly member and scores of middle aged 40-60 folks. We did not get it, or we did and have no symptoms. Nobody died, and for folks my age it was just the flu. My wife and I had a stomach bug and it was worse than COVID.

4. I'm a Vol. Firefighter and many medical personnel in my little department have NOT received the vaccine for the same reasons, and they're medical professionals.

5. In my fire dept I know an older couple who got the vaccine and now both have the delta variant very bad. So the vaccine did bupkiss for them.

We are not crazy. This is an entirely logical decision.

I provided links to sources after posters insinuated my numbers were not real. You cite an unverifiable claim from personal experience. I cited verifiable sources that 99% of those who died in June had not been vaccinated. Thus over 9000 needless deaths from not getting vaccines that are more than 90% effective in preventing deaths.
 

Van

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I am one of the unvaccinated.

My reasons for not being vaccinated are not one of the blanket reasons listed by the media. I have had more than one serious encounter with someone that angrily insisted that I personally or "people like me" are personally endangering them.

I am worried where this is all going.

Some of these vaccine companies are on the verge of losing a lot of money. And they cannot be sued for anything they do to try and prevent such losses.

The blanket insistence that the vaccine is entirely safe for pregnant woman is one of my greatest concerns. I recently watched a documentary on the drug thalidomide. For all our technological advances we have not gotten any wiser or more careful than doctors and scientists of the past.
What is the number of pregnant women who were vaccinated? What is the number who had adverse affects? Coercing others to be vaccinated is obvious sinful and unbiblical. But also is spreading false information that results in death. How many unvaccinated pregnant women died from Covid. How many of their babies died with them.
 

Wingman68

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I provided links to sources after posters insinuated my numbers were not real. You cite an unverifiable claim from personal experience. I cited verifiable sources that 99% of those who died in June had not been vaccinated. Thus over 9000 needless deaths from not getting vaccines that are more than 90% effective in preventing deaths.
I’m not insinuating, your numbers are not real.
 

Bible Thumpin n Gun Totin

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I provided links to sources after posters insinuated my numbers were not real. You cite an unverifiable claim from personal experience. I cited verifiable sources that 99% of those who died in June had not been vaccinated. Thus over 9000 needless deaths from not getting vaccines that are more than 90% effective in preventing deaths.

All I'm saying is that to folks like myself that have SEEN it, we're not worried about numbers, we're worried about reality. And reality ain't matching numbers.

There's a lot of folks, bless their hearts, making numbers in the gubmint that are educated beyond their intelligence.
 

dad2

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The number of people who died from Covid in June is not in dispute. The number is about 10,000. You did not cite a source for any number, as if nobody died of Covid. That is irrational nonsense, Sir.
I don't believe you, sorry. In some places they report a death as covid if covid is involved. That is not a covid death. How many die and get sick of the 'cure' (so called vaccine)? The numbers are not known, and the stats seem to be biased in favor of minimizing the numbers. For all I know the deaths related to the vaccine could be far higher! This thing is not being done in the light, but in the shadows.
 

Van

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I don't believe you, sorry. In some places they report a death as covid if covid is involved. That is not a covid death. How many die and get sick of the 'cure' (so called vaccine)? The numbers are not known, and the stats seem to be biased in favor of minimizing the numbers. For all I know the deaths related to the vaccine could be far higher! This thing is not being done in the light, but in the shadows.
What you choose believe is your business.
 

Wingman68

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Right, ask for links, then claim the links are invalid. Sir, you are posting absurdity.

At least I’m not a tool who carries water for people who don’t even have their best interests at heart.
85% of new Delta infections in Israel were fully vaccinated. Data shows you have a 5 times greater risk of getting the variant if fully vaxed. This was confirmed by their Minister of Health. Agenda 21 folk have a plan to save the world, not the people. Variant after variant, jab after jab.
Bill Gates openly stated that vaccines will be used to depopulate the world by 10-15%. He ran a pandemic drill in Oct. called Event 201. He already had a corona virus patent. And you expect me to take this shot?
Fauci tried to patent an Mrna vaccine for HIV, & was denied. The reason? It was not a vaccine. We need to stop calling this jab a vaccine. It is not. But now, under ‘emergency authorization’ they get their Mrna out there, & even though it is NOT approved, they want to force us all to be lab rats. Nope.
 

poor-in-spirit

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60% of hospitalized Covid cases are fully vaccinated

45,000 dead within 3 days of taking the shots

A believer should also check the source of their information. If that source of "news" you rely on also pushes the reprobate agendas of the left, you should not be following their guidance period. One would think that believers would already know this but most just soak in the lies like sheep following the wrong shepherds. Trust this: your best interest is of no concern to them. They are anti-Christ and anti-Christian by default (in other words liars just like their father-satan). Nor should you believe at face value any of their criticisms of experts whom disagree with their narratives. Weigh it all yourself and decide for yourself.
 

Van

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At least I’m not a tool who carries water for people who don’t even have their best interests at heart.
85% of new Delta infections in Israel were fully vaccinated. Data shows you have a 5 times greater risk of getting the variant if fully vaxed. This was confirmed by their Minister of Health. Agenda 21 folk have a plan to save the world, not the people. Variant after variant, jab after jab.
Bill Gates openly stated that vaccines will be used to depopulate the world by 10-15%. He ran a pandemic drill in Oct. called Event 201. He already had a corona virus patent. And you expect me to take this shot?
Fauci tried to patent an Mrna vaccine for HIV, & was denied. The reason? It was not a vaccine. We need to stop calling this jab a vaccine. It is not. But now, under ‘emergency authorization’ they get their Mrna out there, & even though it is NOT approved, they want to force us all to be lab rats. Nope.
Sir, my numbers are based on verifiable information, you views to be kind are not.

99% of USA deaths of about 10,000 in June that were due to COVID 19 were unvaccinated. Those spewing nonsense may mislead some, contributing to needless deaths. Folks, listen to your doctor, not on line nonsense.
 

Van

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Great, and you can try all the unproven medical experimental junk based on murdering babies that you would like. You can even believe the fake news media if you like. Cheers.
This attempt to disparage the person presenting verifiable information says it all.
 

dad2

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This attempt to disparage the person presenting verifiable information says it all.
Why would the person see that as disparaging when that is what they want to do? They want the 'vaccination' that was based on aborted fetus research. They want to accept the numbers the media spits out as gospel. Etc.
 

Van

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Why would the person see that as disparaging when that is what they want to do? They want the 'vaccination' that was based on aborted fetus research. They want to accept the numbers the media spits out as gospel. Etc.
Repeating your false mantra is all you have Sir. I supported my views, and rely on the advice of doctors, not those presenting nonsense.
 

Wingman68

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Nearly 11,000 Deaths After COVID Vaccines Reported to CDC, as FDA Adds New Warning to J&J Vaccine

These are what has been reported, the real numbers are estimated to be much higher. When people seek treatment, most facilities are discounting the possibility of vax causes if it was done more than 3 days prior. Many people post in to the pages which have yet to be banned, that they work in the medical industry & can say nothing to patients that deviates from ‘the agenda’ or lose their jobs. The people who are suffering know what’s to blame, but they are discounted. Their problems are probably not getting on record.
 
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