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[Revmitchell]

Writing in an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal, UCLA Geffen School of Medicine Doctor Joseph Lapado and Yale School of Public Health Doctor Harvey Risch warn there are legitimate and serious concerns about the side effects of the Wuhan coronavirus vaccine. They also worry vaccine politics could be preventing officials from telling Americans the truth about the risks.


Top Doctors Speculate a Reversal on COVID Vaccine Safety Could Be Coming

 

[JonC]

A group of 57 leading scientists, doctors, and policy experts has released a report calling in to question the safety and efficacy of the current Covid-19 vaccines and are now calling for an immediate end to all vaccine programs.

57 Top Scientists and Doctors: Stop All Covid Vaccinations

That is fair. It is possible to die of the vaccine. One weighs the risks, and there will be differing opinions.

But what you were doing was posting "fake news", propaganda, and lies. That is not fair (that is evil).

 

[Revmitchell]

A Canadian surgeon has been fired from his position at the University of Saskatchewan and suspended from teaching after expressing concerns about Covid-19 vaccine safety.

Dr. Francis Christian, Clinical Professor of General Surgery, released a statement on June 17 noting that he is pro-vaccine but stating that the principle of "informed consent" are being violated. According to medical ethics, patients should be made “fully aware of the risks of the medical intervention, the benefits of the intervention, and if any alternatives exist to the intervention.” However, as Dr. Christian notes, this is not being done in many instances with Covid-19 vaccinations.


CENSORED: Pro-vaccine doctor Francis Christian, over Covid-19 vaccine safety concerns | Sharyl Attkisson

 

[JonC]

SURVEY: Most doctors are skipping Covid-19 vaccine

Of the 700 physicians responding to an internet survey by the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons (AAPS), nearly 60 percent said they were not “fully vaccinated” against COVID.

This contrasts with the claim by the American Medical Association that 96 percent of practicing physicians are fully vaccinated. This was based on 300 respondents.

Neither survey represents a random sample of all American physicians, but the AAPS survey shows that physician support for the mass injection campaign is far from unanimous.

“It is wrong to call a person who declines a shot an ‘anti-vaxxer,’” states AAPS executive director Jane Orient, M.D. “Virtually no physicians are ‘anti-antibiotics’ or ‘anti-surgery,’ whereas all are opposed to treatments that they think are unnecessary, more likely to harm than to benefit an individual patient, or inadequately tested.”


SURVEY: Most doctors are skipping Covid-19 vaccine | Sharyl Attkisson

This is fine as well. I know many who did not get the shot but are not anti-vaxers and many who got the shot who are not pro-vaxers.

People evaluate risks and make a decision.

What I was objecting to is your (and a few others) attempt to obscure facts with lies in order to keep people from making an informed decision.

The vaccination can cause serious issues. So can the virus. Your attempt to keep people from making an informed decision is evil, and I truly believe you will be held accountable for it.

 

[Reynolds]

Well, at least one of the scientist's name is "Christian".

How do you know those scientists are atheists?

Also, if you notice, I never made conclusions about the virus or the vaccine. I only pointed out the lies some were telling.

Most scientists are not Christian.

 

[JonC]

A Canadian surgeon has been fired from his position at the University of Saskatchewan and suspended from teaching after expressing concerns about Covid-19 vaccine safety.

Dr. Francis Christian, Clinical Professor of General Surgery, released a statement on June 17 noting that he is pro-vaccine but stating that the principle of "informed consent" are being violated. According to medical ethics, patients should be made “fully aware of the risks of the medical intervention, the benefits of the intervention, and if any alternatives exist to the intervention.” However, as Dr. Christian notes, this is not being done in many instances with Covid-19 vaccinations.


CENSORED: Pro-vaccine doctor Francis Christian, over Covid-19 vaccine safety concerns | Sharyl Attkisson

The pharmaceutical companies also mandate that the information be disclosed (which you know, as I'm sure you read the info sheets).

 

[JonC]

Most scientists are not Christian.

Most people are not Christians....but you and I are.

 

[Revmitchell]

That is fair. It is possible to die of the vaccine. One weighs the risks, and there will be differing opinions.

But what you were doing was posting "fake news", propaganda, and lies. That is not fair (that is evil).

nope I’m posting my views based on my research. You don’t personally like my view so you childishly call it evil. If I’m posting evil things shouldn’t those evil things be dealt with by an admin?

 

[Revmitchell]

The pharmaceutical companies also mandate that the information be disclosed (which you know, as I'm sure you read the info sheets).

more obfuscation

 

[JonC]

This famous scientist said that God does not exist.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...said-about-god-his-atheism-and-his-own-death/

Which vaccine did he work on?

 

[Revmitchell]

93 doctors have signed a joint letter of protest calling to refrain from administering Covid-19 vaccines to children.

In a letter, the contents of which reached Channel 12, submitted this morning, the doctors explained that "There is no room to vaccinate children at this time," and based the call on "the following values - the value of caution, the value of humility", as well as understanding that "haste is from the devil." They also cited "the recognition that we do not understand everything about the virus and the vaccine against it," and "the first commandment of medicine - 'First do not harm.'"

The letter includes the signatures of Dr. Amir Shachar, director of the emergency room at Laniado Hospital, Dr. Yoav Yehezkeli, an expert in internal medicine and a lecturer at Tel Aviv University, and Dr. Avi Mizrahi, director of the intensive care unit at Kaplan Hospital.

93 Israeli doctors: Do not use Covid-19 vaccine on children

 

[Reynolds]

Most people are not Christians....but you and I are.

I'm not sure. Seems like I read me and Rev Mitch are evil.

 

[JonC]

nope I’m posting my views based on my research. You don’t personally like my view so you childishly call it evil. If I’m posting evil things shouldn’t those evil things be dealt with by an admin?

No, you are not.

I do not mind your view that the vaccine is dangerous (I believe it is as well).

I do not like it that you are a Christian, have "rev" in your user name, yet have no problem posting disinformation because it supports your opinion (or "your truth").

You are wrong because there is no "your truth" and "my truth". There is just the truth. And you ignore facts to post misleading information that could impact the Iives of other people (I suspect that out of fear you cling to any feeble claim that gives you comfort).

It is evil because you do not stop ti think how the false info you post could either harm others should your opinion be wrong.

 

[Revmitchell]

No, you are not.

I do not mind your view that the vaccine is dangerous (I believe it is as well).

I do not like it that you are a Christian, have "rev" in your user name, yet have no problem posting disinformation because it supports your opinion (or "your truth").

You are wrong because there is no "your truth" and "my truth". There is just the truth. And you ignore facts to post misleading information that could impact the Iives of other people (I suspect that out of fear you cling to any feeble claim that gives you comfort).

It is evil because you do not stop ti think how the false info you post could either harm others should your opinion be wrong.

you have yet to prove I have done such a thing and if I’m posting anything evil then it should be dealt with by an admin

 

[JonC]

I'm not sure. Seems like I read me and Rev Mitch are evil.

I do not think you are evil at all.

You said you wanted the infornation I just provided. The vaccine has serious possible side-effects. Each person should consider this for themselves. That's all I am saying - people need to stop posting misinformation (at least two OP's are proven propaganda).

Should not anti-vax and pro-vax people, if Christian, point out lies even if that misinformation supports their opinions?

 

[JonC]

you have yet to prove I have done such a thing and if I’m posting anything evil then it should be dealt with by an admin

No. I an saying God deals with the evil things Christians do. 1 Peter was written to Christians. Do you not know the One you call Father judges impartially?

 

[Reynolds]

I do not think you are evil at all.

You said you wanted the infornation I just provided. The vaccine has serious possible side-effects. Each person should consider this for themselves. That's all I am saying - people need to stop posting misinformation (at least two OP's are proven propaganda).

Should not anti-vax and pro-vax people, if Christian, point out lies even if that misinformation supports their opinions?

That's not what's happening. Censorship and silencing opposing voices is what's happening.

 

[JonC]

That's not what's happening. Censorship and silencing opposing voices is what's happening.

I agree about censorship. There is an agenda to get everyone vacvinated.

But that does not excuse the conspiracy nuts for posting misinformation to combat the pro-vax-wear-a-mask-till-ya-die crowd.

 

[Revmitchell]

No. I an saying God deals with the evil things Christians do. 1 Peter was written to Christians. Do you not know the One you call Father judges impartially?

so this board allows evil things to be posted? I’m saying either get it dealt with by the admin or stop your little personal attack. Your wrong, what your doing is bearing a false witness.

 

[Reynolds]

I agree about censorship. There is an agenda to get everyone vacvinated.

But that does not excuse the conspiracy nuts for posting misinformation to combat the pro-vax-wear-a-mask-till-ya-die crowd.

Both sides should post truth. Truth is usually determined by analyzing the "perceived truths" of the opposing views.
You eliminate ignorance by education. Censorship does nothing to eliminate ignorance.