Vaccine mandates on public gatherings.

[Revmitchell]

I’m

Yes, you did. You called my trust in these organizations as:

Nope nothing about abortion there

 

[Revmitchell]

I doubt it.

so????? What am I supposed to do with your doubt? Why is it you believe I care

It is just the minority trying to force their will on the majority - trying to move from capitalism to socialism by having private companies controlled by the people rather than the business owners.

nothing about this is true

 

[Earth Wind and Fire]

But nobody is being forced to take a vaccine (and nobody is being coerced....anymore than anti-vaxers are coercing people).

The only move towards socialism is the anti-vaxers who demand an end to owners controlling the interest of their companies. That is approaching socialism.

What would you do if you had a business and a group of people demanded you let them determine your requirements? What would you do if you were a business owner and a group of employees refused to follow your policies?

That’s not true… evidenced by no own younger brother. He has told me about undue pressures… even though he gets a weekly test. In short, the management, as well as some Vaxer staff is overtly hostile to him for not getting vaccinated.

 

[Revmitchell]

No. The thing is we differ on beliefs.

I praise God for giving men the skills, for working through them, to save lives rather than glorifying men for those millions saved.

It is like abortion issues. You and I are both opposed to abortion - but you less so. We both believe abortion is murder, but I also believe denying medical treatment to save an unborn child equates to abortion. You, on the other hand, seem to indicate such treatments should be avoided because they are products of man.

Have you considered that if women followed your advice about these trusting medical researchers, these scientists, these medical organizations then you would have been responsible for the death of more babies than any single abortionist?

For the record:

1. I never said that we should deny medical treatment of an unborn baby.

2. I never said medical treatments should be avoided because they are products of man.

Making the jump from not trusting the science on the covid vax to those statements is not within the boundaries of sane thinking. Either there is an issue that needs some help or there is such desperation to be as inflammatory as possible that it drags you out of rational thinking.


Either way that accusation is not founded in reality.

 

[JonC]

That’s not true… evidenced by no own younger brother. He has told me about undue pressures… even though he gets a weekly test. In short, the management, as well as some Vaxer staff is overtly hostile to him for not getting vaccinated.

Pressure is often perceived. He could always quit. But I never minded pressure.

 

[Reformed1689]

Pressure is often perceived. He could always quit. But I never minded pressure.

Pressure to make a personal health decision or lose your job? You never minded that? Military doesn't count here.

 

[JonC]

For the record:

1. I never said that we should deny medical treatment of an unborn baby.

2. I never said medical treatments should be avoided because they are products of man.

Making the jump from not trusting the science on the covid vax to those statements is not within the boundaries of sane thinking. Either there is an issue that needs some help or there is such desperation to be as inflammatory as possible that it drags you out of rational thinking.


Either way that accusation is not founded in reality.

No. For the record you accused me of holding to the "religion of false science".

The reason is I have pointed to experts you reject.

Except for questioning my faith yours is a fair position.

But if these experts comprise "the religion of false science" and cannot be trusted then other medical advancements cannot be trusted.

You do not get to call people inept when you do not like what they say but geniuses when you like what they say.

If the vaccine cannot be trusted because it was created by "the religion of false science" then so are other vacvines and treatments that have saved thousands of children's lives.

But you don't even believe that genome tracking is done....so it really does not matter.

 

[Reynolds]

I know. But you are allowing the government to make decisions for you.

You would take ivermectin as long as the government said not to, but if the government says you need to you wouldn't. Your decisions have nothing to do with the medication itself but with a desire to rebel against a government.

Nope. If the govt coerced me to, I would say no.
You seem to be unable to discern the difference between free choice and coerced choice. Not really a hard concept. Can't understand why it is beyond your comprehension.

 

[Revmitchell]

No. For the record you accused me of holding to the "religion of false science".

The reason is I have pointed to experts you reject.

Except for questioning my faith yours is a fair position.

But if these experts comprise "the religion of false science" and cannot be trusted then other medical advancements cannot be trusted.

You do not get to call people inept when you do not like what they say but geniuses when you like what they say.

If the vaccine cannot be trusted because it was created by "the religion of false science" then so are other vacvines and treatments that have saved thousands of children's lives.

But you don't even believe that genome tracking is done....so it really does not matter.

Yet another false accusation:


1. I never questioned anyones faith.

2. I never called people inept when you do not like what they say but geniuses when you like what they say.

 

[JonC]

Yet another false accusation:


1. I never questioned anyones faith.

2. I never called people inept when you do not like what they say but geniuses when you like what they say.

Yes you did. You said I believed in the religion of false science. Belief is faith.

The scientist I said I "belueved" in (I said trusted) were listed out. They are the ones that gave us the medical advancements that has saved thousands of lives.

Look....I am not saying you are pro-choice. I know you are anti-abortion. You are just not anti-abortion enough for me. That's all. You have a bit of liberal in your blood.

 

[Revmitchell]

Yes you did. You said I believed in the religion of false science. Belief is faith.

The scientist I said I "belueved" in (I said trusted) were listed out. They are the ones that gave us the medical advancements that has saved thousands of lives.

Look....I am not saying you are pro-choice. I know you are anti-abortion. You are just not anti-abortion enough for me. That's all. You have a bit of liberal in your blood.

naa you like to twist peoples words like this. What ever you can do to be as inflammatory as possible

 

[JonC]

I’m


Nope nothing about abortion there

Like I said, you are anti-abortion but not strongly enough for me (perhaps anti-abortion lite?).

We both believe that abortion is murder. But you reject the science that gave us the covid vaccines and called it "false science", stating that my faith was in "the religion of false science".

You questioned my faith (more correctly, you indicated I have a false faith). But that is not my point

You call the science that produced the vaccines as a false religion. But this "false science" has saved hundreds of thousands babies.

You dismiss this science as false, but without it those children would be dead.

And they continue to save lives and make advancements.

That is why I say you are "anti-abortion lite". You just are not that strong against abortion because it does not suit your politics. You have a little liberal running in your veins.

Rather than calling the science false I praise God that He has given scientists this ability and has blessed us by saving countless lives.

These are lives that would have been lost, children that would not be alive today, if enough people bought what you are selling.

 

[JonC]

naa you like to twist peoples words like this. What ever you can do to be as inflammatory as possible

No. Those were YOUR words.

actually it puts you in the group. You are the one who holds to the religion of a false science ....

Now if you did not really mean that I "hold to the religion of false science" that us one thing. You could simply respond "Jon, how utterly stupid of me, I fod mot mean what I wrote".

But stop denying (again) that you did not write the post.

Or do you just get blown around so much, like a reed shaken in the wind, that you forget what you said?

 

[Reformed1689]

W

You do not get to call people inept when you do not like what they say but geniuses when you like what they say.

Would this not apply to you as well?

 

[Salty]

Time to close this thread