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In short he is claiming the reason people die of COVID is they live unhealthy lifestyles and are vitamin-mineral difficult. Rather than a vaccine people should lose weight and eat healthy.
Stop drinking alcohol, get vitamins, and lose weight. Then you will not suffer severe effects of the virus.
He has a point that if we were a healthier population then maybe the virus wouldn't be as bad. The questionable part is he does not address healthy people who died and there is no indication of how we get from being unhealthy to healthy without dying inbetween (if you get the virus).
It is akin to saying high blood pressure meds are prescribed a lot to overweight people when the docs should instead just make them lose weight (problem is they may die of a heart attack before they have a chance to actually be healthy).
It isn't a long video, BTW.
Stop drinking alcohol, get vitamins, and lose weight. Then you will not suffer severe effects of the virus.
He has a point that if we were a healthier population then maybe the virus wouldn't be as bad. The questionable part is he does not address healthy people who died and there is no indication of how we get from being unhealthy to healthy without dying inbetween (if you get the virus).
It is akin to saying high blood pressure meds are prescribed a lot to overweight people when the docs should instead just make them lose weight (problem is they may die of a heart attack before they have a chance to actually be healthy).
It isn't a long video, BTW.
canadyjd
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Thanks for the synopsis. Sounds reasonable and applies to all diseases and unhealthy conditions.
As a vertically challenged individual, I can honestly say that I know the most important thing a person should know about losing weight.
Never take weight loss advice from someone fatter than you are.
peace to you
The synopsis presented here doesn’t even begin to scratch the service of his complete presentation and if you wanted to gleam some of the important points of interest, then take a listen. I will mention two that were of interest to me.
1. health care professionals ( and I would use that term with a high degree of skepticism) must begin the Early Treatment process vs sending COVID positive tested people home to develop very serious symptoms. Apparently these quote on quote professionals are following very week protocols that are hampering recovery.
2. the Delta variant is a less malevolent form of virus when judged from its predecessor. While it be more infectious it’s inferior to the earlier one. You are going to have to listen to Dr. Coles explanation for details.
It’s real easy to loose a lot of weight in a very short time. Just get cancer... I’ve gone from 225 to 165 lbs without ever reducing my caloric intake. 
canadyjd
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I’ll pass on the cancer diet. I do wish you well.It’s real easy to loose a lot of weight in a very short time. Just get cancer... I’ve gone from 225 to 165 lbs without ever reducing my caloric intake.
I haven’t weighed 165lbs since the second grade.
peace to you
canadyjd
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I’ve heard this before, both the early treatment and info about less severity of variant.
I recently saw a young girl, about 8-10, walking with her father, outside wearing a mask and near scared to death. “What if I get the delta virus, I would die”.
What we are doing to our children is shameful.
peace to you
That’s not what this doctor said at all... rather he indicated that these virus strains deminish with time. Fear is not the emotion that any of us wish to solicit, it’s greater knowledge and working with one another to gain understanding.
I firmly believe that the USA has the opportunity when diversity comes our way to lead the way, after all we have both the knowledge and the wherewithal to address this. And as Christians, our appeal to our Heavenly Father will make all the difference. And wasn’t it FDR who said in a speech to the American people, “that the only thing we have to fear is fear itself.”
canadyjd
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What does “when diversity comes our way” have to with this virus?
peace to you
More vaccines that address variants.
canadyjd
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Thanks for clarifying.
If we continue a never ending strategy of shut downs, mask wearing, vaccines mandates for every variant of this virus (that has a 99%+ survival rate for nearly all people) we will destroy this country.
We are treating this virus as if it has a 20-30% fatality rate. It is over reaction. I’m not saying it’s not a real threat for people, especially for the elderly and people with compromised health, but this response does not correspond to the reality of the threat, especially for young people.
peace to you
The left has a winner for control in their hands right now in covid, and there will be 10,000 variants each worse than the “last”, if that is what they think will keep folks scared enough to control.
AFAIC, the only solution is the complete demise of the dem party in ‘22.
People in fear are easily controlled (whether it is a fear of a virus or of a vaccine or even of preventive measures).
The reason this is political is because we (and the world) was politically divided prior to the pandemic
What was the DNC going to run on if not fearmongering in regards to the virus? They had nothing else.
"Survival rate" is quite a bit different than the recovery rate. Somewhere between 20-33% of COVID-19 sufferers deal with long-term (potentially permanent) damage to their bodies. If we create a large number of invalids (lung, kidney, and neurological damage), it will cause great harm to the US (and the world).
You may have missed the news, but very large numbers of children have been afflicted by the Delta variant. The children's hospitals are full in North Texas. I have a friend with a special needs daughter who needs a new feeding tube, but the hospital cannot risk having her in for the replacement.
As a reminder, one of the primary reasons we (as a society) want to minimize the spread of COVID-19 is so that we do not overwhelm our healthcare system.
On a personal note, I was supposed to have a follow-up appointment with an endocrinologist at UT Southwestern Medical Center in Dallas in March 2020. It was initially delay one month to April 2020, and now they will get back to me when they can see regular patients -- I am writing this on August 23, 2021, and my appointment is still pending. I have also had to delay a cancer screening that was scheduled for June 2020, and there is no opportunity in sight for that to happen.
People still have medical issues and emergencies, whether or not COVID-19 is active. Many of those persons are having potentially life-saving diagnosis and treatments delayed because of persons filling the hospital's intensive care facilities with COVID-19 -- many of them there because they have refused to get the vaccines.
All of the nonsense about a "99% survival rate" is myopic at best, dishonest at worst. The real cost in human life is MUCH higher.
True.
Yes, but the former President decided to make it a political issue (including his refusal to wear a mask on almost all occasions), and his denial that COVID-19 was a real issue for the first several months, while knowing full well that it was extremely serious. As President, he could have called the country to work together to end the pandemic, but he would not.
With a death count of more than 620,000 directly from COVID-19, it was hardly "fearmongering."
canadyjd
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Please use your google magic to show the study that 20-33% of people who have had COVID suffer “long term, potentially permanent, damage to their bodies… producing large numbers of invalids”. You are talking about 40 million people in the US.
Additionally, the “large number” of children are affected is more fear mongering, especially coupled with the “hospital in North Texas is full.”
Give the exact numbers. How many children are hospitalized in North Texas. How many nation wide. Please don’t say, “the number has grown by 300%”. That is meaningless without actual numbers. If you had one child hospitalized and it grew to four, isn’t that a 300% increase?
As far as Texas is concerned, I’ve seen reports of widespread COVID hospitalizations among illegal immigrant community.
The 99% + survival rate is not nonsense.
I pray your cancer screening yields happy results.
Peace to you
Yes, I am talking about a huge number of people.
23% of COVID-19 Patients Report Long-Haul Symptoms
Sequelae in Adults at 6 Months After COVID-19 Infection (about 33%)
This is from two weeks ago, and the situation isn't any better:
- No pediatric ICU beds available in North Texas (19 counties)
- Overall pediatric hospital capacity is at 94.55% (19 counties)
- More than 73 confirmed pediatric ICU COVID-19 patients
- Today (August 21), we have 3,137 hospitalized COVID-19 patients in North Texas
I doubt that's true, but even if it is, so what?
The way you use it to dismiss concern for the COVID emergency sure is. That survival rate depends upon getting top level medical care, which is getting more difficult to obtain.
I doubt I will get screened until all of this mess is over. If I have an issue, it may well be too late.
canadyjd
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While there is no doubt the virus is lethal to the elderly, I must point out the number “directly” from COVID is exaggerated. People that died from other health issues, but had a “positive” COVID test were said to have died from COVID. This included people with no COVID symptoms and very serious conditions like advanced heart or lung disease, cancers, and in some cases gunshot victims.
The CDC changed its methodology in determining cause of death in relation to COVID, giving much higher numbers. A purely political move by “scientists”. Very sad indeed.
peace to you