Vicarius filii Dei is still making the rounds apparently.

[BobRyan]

Originally posted by WPutnam:
Just a quick note to let you guys know I am watching this thread!

Also, I am not the mean looking guy you saw in my avatar (picture), but a "harmless little fuzz ball" in old age!

But I can still type a lot when I get the notion!

God bless,

PAX

Bill+†+


Regina Angelorum, ora pro nobis!

Bill - you are welcome to type in no matter what the picture.

Glad you have some time for this.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Originally posted by MikeS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tragic_pizza:
and?

or? xor? not? neg? bne? jsr? adc?

(any other programmers hanging out here?)

ret </font>[/QUOTE]It's all just a giant no op in pseudocode to me.


But Assembler?? How about APL?

My group is currently stuck in Java and C++ purgatory -- looking for a "plenary indulgence".

Then of course there are those C# guys with .net. playing in their own sandbox and betting that one day it will take over the world.

I vote for a standarized web service that uses struts with EJBs over the ones that rely on the .net one-OS-horse.

Here is a quiz question - in the context above - who is "the beast"?

Bob

 

[MikeS]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by MikeS:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by tragic_pizza:
and?

or? xor? not? neg? bne? jsr? adc?

(any other programmers hanging out here?)

ret </font>[/QUOTE]It's all just a giant no op in pseudocode to me.


But Assembler?? How about APL?

My group is currently stuck in Java and C++ purgatory -- looking for a "plenary indulgence".

Then of course there are those C# guys with .net. playing in their own sandbox and betting that one day it will take over the world.

I vote for a standarized web service that uses struts with EJBs over the ones that rely on the .net one-OS-horse.

Here is a quiz question - in the context above - who is "the beast"?

Bob </font>[/QUOTE]Now we're on the same wavelength, Bob. (Or is that the same 64-bit address?) How "the beast" hasn't been sued out of existence for its terrible products is beyond me. I'm sure the Jesuits are involved in some way, though!

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by BobRyan:
"Rather" the point is to "show" that God's Word predicted the Historic events that have been recorded AND that by admitting to the real history of the dark ages (rather than constantly trying to revise it) "TODAY's" Catholic can be freed from the darkness of blind loyalty and brought into the light of day. SEEING that the Bible predicted that such an apostacy would occur in hisotry.

The Bible also warns about false prophets (or should I say prophetess) but you seem to have no problem with Ellen White.

BTW - her name also adds up to 666 (that should give you pause).

 

[BobRyan]

Originally posted by MikeS:

Now we're on the same wavelength, Bob. (Or is that the same 64-bit address?) How "the beast" hasn't been sued out of existence for its terrible products is beyond me. I'm sure the Jesuits are involved in some way, though!

Now we know what the beast's friends call his daddy... "BillyG"

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Originally posted by trying2understand:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by BobRyan:
"Rather" the point is to "show" that God's Word predicted the Historic events that have been recorded AND that by admitting to the real history of the dark ages (rather than constantly trying to revise it) "TODAY's" Catholic can be freed from the darkness of blind loyalty and brought into the light of day. SEEING that the Bible predicted that such an apostacy would occur in hisotry.

T2U responds --
The Bible also warns about false prophets (or should I say prophetess) but you seem to have no problem with Ellen White.

BTW - her name also adds up to 666 (that should give you pause). </font>[/QUOTE]I have no problem at all with other Christian denominations that want to point out that they differ with my denomination on our doctrines and therefore consider any prophet that supports our doctrines to be false.

That makes perfect sense to me. It is a matter of "doctrine".

But when it comes to slaughter, torture and "extermination" in the dark ages - it is simply a matter of "history" not of "preference".

When it comes to a title for Peter found in real Historic Catholic Document - written by Catholics for Catholics - and observing that "said title" fits "one" of the markers for a character predicted in human history AND finding that ANOTHER key marker is ALSO matched up in the form of the policy of "extermination" that the RCC admits to during the dark ages... AND when "other markers" also line up.. well it is important to share what God says about human history at some point.

So when we "discover" that God Himself was capable and "interested" in pointing out such a gigantic historic event coming barrelling down the road at first century Christians - that too "makes sense to admit.

Trying to "hide that Bible fact" and "edit history to please you" is not "making sense".

Hiding that Bible truth does nothing for Christianity in general and does not "bless" any Christian of any denomination.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[BobRyan]

Lets say for example that the Pope is caught bribing someone, or that it turns out that he has several children out of wedlock from his days as a bishop or early days as a pope etc.

I really would not care to have that made public nor do I think it would "bless the Christian church" to know about his indiscretions. That is not "the point" of exposing the RCC institutionalized policy of torment, torture, and extermination along with the other markers in scripture that show where that would lead.

Just hounding the pope for some individual error or sin - is not the point.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[trying2understand]

Bob, this thread is on the name that adds up to 666.

Ellen Gould White fits the bill.

Perhaps you would care to address that.

BTW notice that Ellen Gould White is actually a "name" whereas Vicarius Filii Dei is a title.

 

[BobRyan]

Details Details - our RC bretheren so enjoy "editing" the details.

#1. This thread is title "Vicarius Filii Dei making the rounds". NOT "what are all the names that add up to 666".

#2. The case has been made on this thread "showing" the Latin Title having a Roman number "number of the name" that adds up to 666 - with EACH letter that IS a Roman number being identified. ONE number - ONE letter - for those letters that are in fact a number.

I doubt that your attempts with english names will be so successful in showing that latin consistency with Roman numbers AND I doubt that you intend to use ONE number for ONE letter whenever you have a letter that is a Roman number. In fact - you probably need to "make something up" that never shows up in any Roman number sequence where one letter becomes TWO numbers.

#3. As already stated with Vicarius Filii Dei - the 666 identifier in Rev 13 is one of about a dozen markers identifying a specific entity in history. They all must add up.

The bottom line is that that the research showing the place in history held by the RCC and the Biblical accuracy in identifying that denomination in history is orders of magnitude beyond what you are attempting with an english name.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[trying2understand]

eLLen 50+50 goULD 5+50+500 WhIte 5+5+1

50+50+5+50+500+5+5+1= 666

No problem.

 

[Kamoroso]

Rev 13:18 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

Number of a man, not a woman. Problem!

 

[BobRyan]

Any time you try to get "Two Roman numerals out of one letter" - you have a "problem".

Any time you try to "equivocate" the Roman numeral assignment to Roman names (latin names) with Roman numeral assignment to English names - 'you have a problem'.

And of course - no "attempt" is made to "deal with" the identifying markers found in Rev 12 and 13 for the the reference in Rev 13 to 666. (But that would be 'details' again).

As we saw with the "details" about the RCC's OWN statement on its OWN policy of "exterminating" protestants (the other thread) - our Catholic bretheren seem to have little interest in "details that don't please them".

In Christ,

Bob

 

[mioque]

Ellen White being THE Anti-Christ (as opposed to being an anti-Christ) would make an interesting basis for a novel.

 

[trying2understand]

"This work is of God, or it is not. God does nothing in partnership with Satan. My work for the past thirty years bears the stamp of God or the stamp of the enemy. There is no halfway work in the matter. The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil." (Ellen Gould White, Testimonies, Vol. 4, p. 230.)


Bob, considering how many "prophecies" of Ms. White have "failed", what are we to conclude from HER "own words"?

The "failure of those prophesies" is the "stamp of the enemy".

By HER "own words", as a nonSDA, we must view Ellen White and those who follow her as doing "the work of the devil".

The logic is "irrefutable".

[ September 17, 2003, 08:27 AM: Message edited by: trying2understand ]

 

[A_Christian]

Are you say'n that ELLEN is DISINGENUOUS...

 

[thessalonian]

Ray Berrian,

Are you a member of the United Church of Christ? How do you feel about them.

 

[mioque]

9 days to go till our visit. (bump)

 

[BobRyan]

While the RC attempts to "equivocate" here are humorous (at least to me) - and somewhat entertaining - they are at the same time hollow and pointless. (But a good read none-the-less).

Vicarius filii Dei "remains" - a Latin title - whose historic appelation is framed by Catholic Sources - Catholic Authors in the "Donation of Constantine".

A Latin (Roman) name/Title whose Roman numeral equivalent matches what Rev 13 predicts.

And as noted - that prediction is only one of a number of Bible markers that are all pointing to the same historic entity and world power.

Hollow attempts to capitalize on the "obvious" fact that any prophet in a group whose "doctrine is not yours" will be judged as a false prophet by all outside groups - are just silly - yet in an entertaining kind of way.

I thank the contributors to that little hoot! Your efforts to sidtrack the discussion were admerable.

Now on to the pursuit of the "truth" about the Title of this thread.

In Christ,

Bob

 

[mioque]

Bob you are living proof of the title of this thread.
"Vicarius filii Dei is still making the rounds apparently."
You are still spreading it.

 

[trying2understand]

Originally posted by trying2understand:
"This work is of God, or it is not. God does nothing in partnership with Satan. My work for the past thirty years bears the stamp of God or the stamp of the enemy. There is no halfway work in the matter. The Testimonies are of the Spirit of God, or of the devil." (Ellen Gould White, Testimonies, Vol. 4, p. 230.)


Bob, considering how many "prophecies" of Ms. White have "failed", what are we to conclude from HER "own words"?

The "failure of those prophesies" is the "stamp of the enemy".

By HER "own words", as a nonSDA, we must view Ellen White and those who follow her as doing "the work of the devil".

The logic is "irrefutable".

Bob Ryan, you missed this one.

Why no response?