Virgin born

[Baptist Believer]

Originally posted by Justified:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Rev. Joshua Villines:
Helen, that verse testifies to the uniqueness of Jesus, but does not link accepting the virgin birth (which is nowhere mentioned in John) with the gospel or salvation.

Joshua

Josh,

Just come out and say it! Mary, according to you was nothing more then a harlot. </font>[/QUOTE]Why don't you say it if that's what you want to hear? I doubt Joshua believes anything of the sort.

I could try the same tactic with you...

Justified, why don't you just admit you're a homosexual??? Come out and say it proud!

How did it feel to have a baseless suggestion like that made about you? Where are the moderators anyway??? Why do they allow this garbage?

Because what you're saying, she could be nothing more.

Justified, if this is the way you plan to talk to the Mormons, I suggest that you politely tell them you changed your mind and excuse yourself. If you are this way with a Mormon you will probably close him to ever hearing the gospel again.

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by Ps104_33:
Rev Villines,
Do you think atheists will be in heaven?

Can't help but comment as this question has me somewhat confused as to how it pertains to the topic at hand! Can't wait till I see an answer or yours. My answer would be definitely no UNLESS that person was saved and thus was not an Athiest anymore.

God Bless..........Alex

 

[C.S. Murphy]

Originally posted by jerryMschneider:
Ones salvation is not based upon recognition of the virginity of Mary, but indeed to question the event when the Bible is clear upon this issue is not a activity which will result in the edification of the body of Christ
[/QB]

Thanks Jerry I appreciate your view.
Murph

 

[Baptist Believer]

Originally posted by C.S. Murphy:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by jerryMschneider:
Ones salvation is not based upon recognition of the virginity of Mary, but indeed to question the event when the Bible is clear upon this issue is not a activity which will result in the edification of the body of Christ

Thanks Jerry I appreciate your view.
Murph[/QB]</font>[/QUOTE]Yes. This is a good and true statement.

 

[bro jeff]

11 pages WOW!! know lets go soul winning before another one slips into Hell.

 

[post-it]

Originally posted by jerryMschneider:
Ones salvation is not based upon recognition of the virginity of Mary, but indeed to question the event when the Bible is clear upon this issue is not a activity which will result in the edification of the body of Christ
[/qb]

But that is part of what this forum is about. We are asking questions about the Bible and Theology.

I don't think it would be appropriate in a Church/classroom setting, but it is here.

 

[go2church]

I agree with post-it
Besides the Apostle Paul didn't emphasis the virgin birth in his preaching of the Gospel. What he emphasized was:
1. God raised Jesus from the dead, validating His claim to be one with the Father (John 10:30, 1Cor. 15:1)
2. Jesus has been exalted to the right hand of the Father (Eph. 1:20, Col. 3:1)
3. The risen Christ will come again (1Thes. 4:13, 2Thes. 1:5-10)
4. God has opened the door of salvation for Gentile as well as Jew (Rom. 3:21-26)
5. The basis for acceptance with God, Jew or Gentile, is justification by faith apart from works of the law (Rom. 4:13-17, Eph. 2:8-9)
Does that mean Paul didn't believe the virgin birth because he didn't emphasize it, I doubt it.

 

[Rev. Joshua]

Originally posted by go2church:
Does that mean Paul didn't believe the virgin birth because he didn't emphasize it, I doubt it.

Didn't emphasize it is something of an understatement. Despite Paul's penchant for hashing and rehashing key areas of theology, he never once even mentions it. It's quite possible that the doctrine was not even widely held at the time of Paul's writings.

Joshua

 

[Alex]

Originally posted by Rev. Joshua Villines:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by go2church:
Does that mean Paul didn't believe the virgin birth because he didn't emphasize it, I doubt it.

Didn't emphasize it is something of an understatement. Despite Paul's penchant for hashing and rehashing key areas of theology, he never once even mentions it. It's quite possible that the doctrine was not even widely held at the time of Paul's writings.

Joshua</font>[/QUOTE]Josh:

Wasn't it a prophecy in the OT about Jesus and a virgin mother? I'm sure it is and there should be some respect to this fact although Catholics have taken it to extremes as you would think Mary was on the same level as Jesus/God. Mary was no different than any human since the beginning of time is respect to her inherrited sinful natute. BUT she was a devout Christian or in the Jewish way, believer in God as Christ wasn't born yet.

God Bless...........Alex