Trust me - I have read VOLUMES of anti-Catholic materials from SDA sources - as well as your bizarre and unbiblical beliefs.
Your false prophetess/founder Ellen White was the unmitigated QUEEN of anti-Catholics.
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Was Bible possesion banned by the Catholic Church?
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Your false prophetess/founder Ellen White was the unmitigated QUEEN of anti-Catholics.
Like I said - YOU have yet to prove otherwise.
I have given you multiple chances to prove Sola Scriptura from Scripture - and you have failed . . .
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The New Testament which is today the sole Apostolic authority was not written by God's Apostles and prophets until after those events by those who are the founders of God's church, Ephesians 2:20, ". . . And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; . . ."
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And as @Walpole has already pointed out - NOWHERE does it say "Readeth the writtenith Wordeth".
It says "HEARETH YOU".
You have failed in post after post after post to prove Sola Scriptura from Scripture.
In a court of law - your case would have been thrown out after the first failure . . .
37818
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There can be no genuine Christianity without the New Testament evidence. Prove the resurrection without any reference to the New Testament directly or indirectly. Any post New Testament professing Christian is indirect NT evidence.
37818
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The New Testament is the proof.
Chapter and Verse, please.
If you can't show me where - then you have failed again . . .
37818
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When Jesus spoke those words they were heard. You read them.
As I stated before - in fact MULTIPLE times - Scripture IS authoritative.
It is simply not our "Sole" Authority and never claims to be.
However, even with a Bible - there can be NO genuine Christianity without the Body of Christ, the CHURCH.
Without the Church - it's just a collection of Books with no witnesses to substantiate it.
Sure - but He wasn't talking anything he wrote down.
He was talking about the words that His CHURCH speaks.
He said:
Luke 10:16
Whoever listens to YOU listens to ME. Whoever rejects YOU rejects ME. And whoever rejects ME rejects the ONE who sent ME."
NOTHING about anything written . . .
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The issue is Apostolic in matters of the faith and practice.
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Where are you quoting (reading) from to get that?
And the Catholic Church has an UNBROKEN line of Apostolic Succession going ALL the way back to the Apostles.
Eminent Protestant historian J.N.D. Kelly attests to this in his book, Oxford Dictionary of Popes - as does Protestant historian Ken Samples in his treatise, What Think Ye of Rome?
From the VERY document that YOU claim to be our "sole" Authority.
The same document that assures us that Christ's CHURCH is our final earthly Authority (Matt. 16:18-19, Matt. 18:15-18, Luke 10:16, John 16:12-15, John 20:21-23).
the Bible backs up everything the Church teaches. The Church doesn't get ALL of its teachings directly from Scripture.
The Canon of Scripture wasn't even declared until 382 at the Council of Rome - by the Catholic Church.
What came first - the 27 Books of the NT or the Church??
Yes - you keep repeating this mantra - but have failed to produce any actual evidence . . .
The New Testament is authoritative, authority resides in the Bishop's of the Church who have the Holy Spirit to guide them.
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