Was it Friday?

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The only date that makes since for the Crucifixion is Friday 14 Nisan.

As it is, Mark 14:12 being the 14th or even the 15th (NIV) makes a 14th Nisan crucifixion Biblically impossible.

 

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Here is one source text:

About the Hebrew Calendar | Yale University Library.

How does it disagree with, Calendar Converter
?

 

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Why do you care what the Jews do? Israelites knew the DAY starts at sunrise. So yes, the evening before, is a time of preparation for the Feast which begins at sunrise.

The calendar date for each day of day light begins at sunset its night before. So Mark 15:42 Preparation Day always begins our Thursday sunset before our Friday. The Sabbath beginning our Friday sunset.

 

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You are posting from Scripture, but prior to the changes in Jewish practices.

Not according to Mark 14:12 being the 14th. [ NIV interprets to be the feast the 15th. ]

 

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No. Else I pushed to have to deny both Scripture and that there could even be an actual historical crucifixion. I cannot and will not do that!

As it is, Mark 14:12 being the 14th or even the 15th (NIV) makes a 14th Nisan crucifixion Biblically impossible.

If you rely on your calculations to believe the crucifixion happened then by all means keep on.

I'd rather see somebody think Jesus died on Monday than have them lose their faith.

But you should consider that if witnessing to a traditional Jew your insistence could be a stumbling block as they would understand why your calculations do not work.

Tge reason is if the Jewish person believe Exodus, Numbers, and Leviticus correct then they cannot believe that Jesus was crucified on 15 Nisan. They would also be familiar to the timing the Passover was killed .

 

[JonC]

Not according to Mark 14:12 being the 14th. [ NIV interprets to be the feast the 15th. ]

Problem is that YOU, not Mark, claim that the verse occurred after sundown on Nisan 14. Mark simply marks the event and day (the eve of Passover).


You would also deny that my family has a Christmas eve meal because we eat early. Not everybody is as legalistic in their speech (Luke certainly wasnt).

You claim Luke wrote an error into the Bible by equating Passover with rhe Feast. But the fact is this was common (the Passover essentially "kicked off" the Feast....really the day prior did).


Mu issue is that to a certain your timeline I have to reject not only what we know of Jewish history but several passages of Scripture.

I cannot do this, especially when Mark's timeline is only an issue when we apply your understanding to it.

 

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But you should consider that if witnessing to a traditional Jew your insistence could be a stumbling block as they would understand why your calculations do not work.

Tge reason is if the Jewish person believe Exodus, Numbers, and Leviticus correct then they cannot believe that Jesus was crucified on 15 Nisan. They would also be familiar to the timing the Passover was killed .

Modern Jews have their Seder the evening of the 15th.

Passover Seder - Wikipedia

" It is conducted throughout the world on the eve of the 15th day of Nisan in the Hebrew calendar (i.e., at the start of the 15th; a Hebrew day begins at sunset)"

Mark 14:17 . . .

 

[JonC]

Modern Jews have their Seder the evening of the 15th.

Passover Seder - Wikipedia

" It is conducted throughout the world on the eve of the 15th day of Nisan in the Hebrew calendar (i.e., at the start of the 15th; a Hebrew day begins at sunset)"

Yes, and that is interesting (do you know why?).

Things changed with the destruction of the Temple.

One Jewish man explained to me that they cannot a observe the Passover since the sacrifice cannot be done. They use Passover week.

A professor explained it this way - Judaism is a post-70 AD religion as the Hebrew religion was centered around the Temple. Where the priests and Sanhedrin determined things in the Hebrew religion, rabbis do so in Judaism.

This was a divide at the time (Pharisees who saw the Law as belonging to the people, Sadducces as belonging to the Temple.


Today Jews go to a grocery store and buy meat. There is no actual passover (the sacrifice).


This goes to what I said earlier. We can't look to Exodus to explain Mark's narrative. We have to look at how these things were done in the 1st Century.

 

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Problem is that YOU, not Mark, claim that the verse occurred after sundown on Nisan 14. Mark simply marks the event and day (the eve of Passover).

No. Exodus 12:18 defines what Mark 14:12 means.
In the first month, on the fourteenth day of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread, until the one and twentieth day of the month at even.

And the first day of unleavened bread, . . .

Is the 14th.

So both the 14 Nisan dates, 30 A.D. Wedensday and 33 A.D. Friday cannot Biblically be the crucifixion days.

 

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