Was Satan, son of perdition, born? Yes, he was, of course, decades ago

[Oseas3]

I have come to the conclusion that, religiously, you're a complete quack & jive artist, making up stuff as you go.

What prevails is the Word of God.
I do not follow religion like you? The earth is infested of devilsh religions, all of them were invented by the spirit of Devil, and those who follow religions invented by the Devil are and walk in great darkness. You are religious. JESUS did not creat, neither preached, any kind of religion, He reproved the religions of the Jews. Who crucified JESUS? The religious people, like you.

JESUS said to the religious people: John 8:v.12 - I am the light of the world: he that follows me will not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. Now, now, the life was/is the light of men. John 3:v.19-21:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 Every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.

You cannot mrpve me nor anyone else who believes as I do wrong; all you can do is rant & try to change the subject.

The time is of harvest. The FIRST to be reaped is the tares to be burnt them, sais the Lord. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it is done now at the end of this age, in the end of this world: the wicked is separated from among the just, and are cast into the furnace of fire, and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

 

[Wesley Briggman]

Don't you know that Satan has already been born? 2 Thessalonians 2:v.3-4

Now, now, he was born decades ago and is about to manifest himself very soon, do you know where? It's good to know and be prepared for the battle of Armageddom. Revelation 16: v. 13-16

Since you conclude that Satan was conceived as a child, do you know anything about his parents?

Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan? | GotQuestions.org
"To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same."

[2Th 2:3-4 ESV] 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

As far a preparing for the battle of Armageddon, thankfully, I don't need to prepare. As a Child of God, I will be raptured with His Church prior to the battle. Praise God!!

 

[robycop3]

What prevails is the Word of God.
I do not follow religion like you? The earth is infested of devilsh religions, all of them were invented by the spirit of Devil, and those who follow religions invented by the Devil are and walk in great darkness. You are religious. JESUS did not creat, neither preached, any kind of religion, He reproved the religions of the Jews. Who crucified JESUS? The religious people, like you.

JESUS said to the religious people: John 8:v.12 - I am the light of the world: he that follows me will not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. Now, now, the life was/is the light of men. John 3:v.19-21:
19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.
20 Every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.



The time is of harvest. The FIRST to be reaped is the tares to be burnt them, sais the Lord. Therefore as the tares are gathered and burned in the fire, so it is done now at the end of this age, in the end of this world: the wicked is separated from among the just, and are cast into the furnace of fire, and there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

Have you ever considered YOU could be a tare, due to your adding false meanings to Scriptures ?

 

[robycop3]

Since you conclude that Satan was conceived as a child, do you know anything about his parents?

Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan? | GotQuestions.org
"To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same."

[2Th 2:3-4 ESV] 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

As far a preparing for the battle of Armageddon, thankfully, I don't need to prepare. As a Child of God, I will be raptured with His Church prior to the battle. Praise God!!

Yes, Satan was created, same as the other cherubim, seraphim, & angels. I believe he is the most-powerful of CREATED beings, & that only GOD can overcome him. I believe when the war in heaven occurred, God empowered Michael to defeat Satan that one time.

 

[Oseas3]

Is Lucifer Satan? Does the fall of Lucifer describe Satan? | GotQuestions.org
"To summarize, Lucifer was cast out of heaven for his sin of pride and his desire to be God. Jesus referred to seeing Satan being cast out of heaven. Therefore, we can conclude that Lucifer and Satan are one and the same."

[2Th 2:3-4 ESV] 3 Let no one deceive you in any way. For that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, 4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.

Good post dear Wesley Briggman.
You are right. Lucifer or the fallen morning star or Satan are one and the same. In fact Satan is a former Cherub and ruler of the God's Garden.

Isaiah 14:v. 12-15KJV
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: (Why in the sides of the north?Psalms 48:v.2 give us a clue of the why)

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. (Spiritually the heights of the clouds to be like the Most High are above the stars)

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. (Revelation 20 shows how will be the fulfilment of this prophecy of Isaiah)


About the MAN of lawlessness, he MUST manifest himself very soon. 2 Th. 2:v. 9 - Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, (Revelation 13:v.12-14) Then will fulfil LITERALLY the verses you posted above - {2Th 2:3-4 ESV]

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Yes, in fact the battle is against the body of the red Dragon, a monstruous religious system with 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a terrible TAIL. In this moment, these three parts of the red Dragon, that is the old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceives the whole world, they work separately and independently one another, but in the days to come they will be united to make war against the true believers, the true Christians. On the other hand, though the three parts of Dragon's body be essencially religious, they are also linked with political, and economic, and social systems, among others systems.

In fact the true believers or true Christians will wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places. High places are heavenly places within which God has blessed us exceedingly: Ephesians 1:v.3 and Philippians 3:v.20-21, among others.

That said, true believers, or Christians, need to be united more than ever in this time of the end, it is time of war now, the kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ and He will reign for ever and ever-Revelation 11: v. 15

The nations will be angry, and God's wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that God should give reward unto His servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear His name, small and great; and should destroy them which destroy the earth- Revelation 11:v.18

God bless

 

[Oseas3]

Have you ever considered YOU could be a tare, due to your adding false meanings to Scriptures ?

Judge you me.
Why are you doing only insinuations? Why do not you judge me with all certain, instead you to intend to insinuate??

I am here as a reaper.

 

[1689Dave]

Don't you know that Satan has already been born? 2 Thessalonians 2:v.3-4

Now, now, he was born decades ago and is about to manifest himself very soon, do you know where? It's good to know and be prepared for the battle of Armageddom. Revelation 16: v. 13-16

Actually, the man of sin, Antichrist became recognized in the 10th century and remains with us.
the first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdoms of many Albigenses, Anabaptists and others who in part embraced his views.

And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist. Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.

 

[Oseas3]

Actually, the man of sin, Antichrist became recognized in the 10th century and remains with us.
the first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdoms of many Albigenses, Anabaptists and others who in part embraced his views.

And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist. Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.

Hello Dave, greetings
Thank you very much for the message you posted, which deserved the best of my attention.

Yes, the Papacy is one part of the Dragon's body, the Papacy is linked to the 7 heads of Antichrist.

I was meditating a little more about the antichrist and in my view, in my understanding, I concluded that the antichrist comes from ancient times, already in the Old Testament, according to the Scriptures. It seems a little hard to understand.

In fact, the true prophets sent by our God to Israel, they were persecuted, mistreated, and cruelly killed, because they had the Spirit of Christ. 1Peter 1: v.9-12 and Matthew 23:v.30-35.

1Peter 1: v.9-12
9 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
10 Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
11 Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ (aleluia, Praise God) which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
12 Unto whom it was revealed, that not unto themselves, but unto us they did minister the things, which are now reported unto you by them that have preached the gospel unto you with the Holy Spirit sent down from heaven; which things the angels desire to look into.

I understood also that in that time, in the OT, the Dragon worked with his 10 horns, and with his TAIL. But after JESUS came, then the 7 heads of the Dragon began to be formed and be developed over these two millennia (1John2:v.18-20), and today, in this present time, the Dragon's body, the ancient Serpent, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world, yeah his body is complete, with its 7 heads, 10 horns, and a tail.

In fact, there are many other things about the three parts of antichrist's body, that are, the 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TAIL. In this moment, they are working separately and independently one of another, but very soon they will be united and together, and they will build an universal satanic kingdom, the kingdom of the antichrist- Daniel 2: v.41-43. There will be war of Michael against the Dragon and his messengers.

Now unto the King Eternal, Immortal, Invisible, the only Wise God, be Honor and Glory for ever and ever. Amen.

 

[robycop3]

Actually, the man of sin, Antichrist became recognized in the 10th century and remains with us.
the first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdoms of many Albigenses, Anabaptists and others who in part embraced his views.

And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist. Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.

No, the papacy is not the antichrist. He will be one man, not many. (Yes, I know there are many antichrists, but the 'beast' will be the worst of all.) he will have a deputy in the false prophet. (Yes, there have been many FPs, but this one will be able to do some miracles in his boss' presence.)

He will be in power when the great trib hits, followed immediately by Jesus' return.

 

[Oseas3]

No, the papacy is not the antichrist. He will be one man, not many. (Yes, I know there are many antichrists, but the 'beast' will be the worst of all.) he will have a deputy in the false prophet. (Yes, there have been many FPs, but this one will be able to do some miracles in his boss' presence.)

He will be in power when the great trib hits, followed immediately by Jesus' return.

You are completely wrong, and also are sowing lies among God's people. You should know that It is the office of Pope that is known as the Papacy. There were 265 Popes excluding Peter the Apostle of the List of Popes, of course, because he never was a Pope, this is a lie, such as the lie you wrote above saying the papacy is not antichrist, being him one of the three parts of the red Dragon's body, that is, exactly the 7 heads.

It is very clear in my post above that, in fact, there are three parts of antichrist's body, that are, the 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TAIL.

It is very clear in my post above that, In this moment, they, the three parts of antichrist's body, are working separately and independently one another, but very soon they will be united and together and they will build an universal religious and satanic kingdom, the kingdom of the antichrist- Daniel 2: v.41-43. There will be war of Michael against the Dragon and his messengers.

Reading the content of your post, it is very clear that you are within the TAIL of the red's Dragon working for him through your lies.

 

[1689Dave]

No, the papacy is not the antichrist. He will be one man, not many. (Yes, I know there are many antichrists, but the 'beast' will be the worst of all.) he will have a deputy in the false prophet. (Yes, there have been many FPs, but this one will be able to do some miracles in his boss' presence.)

He will be in power when the great trib hits, followed immediately by Jesus' return.

He's already got you and you don't know it.

 

[robycop3]

He's already got you and you don't know it.

HORSE FEATHERS!

He hasn't been made manifest yet; he may not even be born yet.

 

[robycop3]

You are completely wrong, and also are sowing lies among God's people. You should know that It is the office of Pope that is known as the Papacy. There were 265 Popes excluding Peter the Apostle of the List of Popes, of course, because he never was a Pope, this is a lie, such as the lie you wrote above saying the papacy is not antichrist, being him one of the three parts of the red Dragon's body, that is, exactly the 7 heads.

It is very clear in my post above that, in fact, there are three parts of antichrist's body, that are, the 7 heads, and 10 horns, and a TAIL.

It is very clear in my post above that, In this moment, they, the three parts of antichrist's body, are working separately and independently one another, but very soon they will be united and together and they will build an universal religious and satanic kingdom, the kingdom of the antichrist- Daniel 2: v.41-43. There will be war of Michael against the Dragon and his messengers.

Reading the content of your post, it is very clear that you are within the TAIL of the red's Dragon working for him through your lies.

PAY ATTENTION TO SCRIPTURE !

Daniel wrote of "the prince of the people who would destroy Jerusalem", not of multiple princes.

Paul wrote of "the MAN of sin", singular, not "men". And Revelation describes ONE MAN as the beast, and another ONE MAN as the false prophet.

And if you read Revelation CLOSELY, you'll see that 'beast' refers to both the man & his empire, with context showing which is which.

 

[Oseas3]

PAY ATTENTION TO SCRIPTURE !

Daniel wrote of "the prince of the people who would destroy Jerusalem", not of multiple princes.

Paul wrote of "the MAN of sin", singular, not "men". And Revelation describes ONE MAN as the beast, and another ONE MAN as the false prophet.

And if you read Revelation CLOSELY, you'll see that 'beast' refers to both the man & his empire, with context showing which is which.

There is no the Word of God in your posts. You do not work with the Word of God - the Word is God -, but with the tares, with lies, that Satan, the son of perdition, a former Cherub, the MAN of sin, has put in your brain, besides twisting posted messages of the brothers..

The discussion is about the Word of God, not on the tares of Devil that will be burned with everlasting fire. Get ready.

 

[Oseas3]

He hasn't been made manifest yet; he may not even be born yet.

The son of perdition, the MAN of sin (2Thes.2), a former Cherub, and now the own Satan incarnate, in fact "he does not manifest himself yet", as you said, this is true really;

But your devilish insinuation saying that "he may not even be born yet", it is a satanic LIE. You work for the antichrist's kingdom sowing your devilish lies.

The MAN of sin, the son of perdition, is already born decades ago, he is not a baby, much less, in accord your false prophecies, he is yet to be born, as the spirit of the lie that dwells in you suggests. Go down into the abyss, spirit of lies.

 

[utilyan]

My money is on Jesus will make Satan repent. Actual restorative Justice. In other words the only way to UTTERLY destroy evil......is turn it Good

Romans 12
21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good..

You know Jesus showed up, The messiah was nothing like the Jews expected.

So I think God is throw a bigger twist at the 2nd coming.

Right the unrightable wrong.

“If we find ourselves with a desire that nothing in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is that we were made for another world.” C.S. Lewis

 

[1689Dave]

HORSE FEATHERS!

He hasn't been made manifest yet; he may not even be born yet.

You believe many of his doctrines failing to know where they came from.

 

[robycop3]

There is no the Word of God in your posts. You do not work with the Word of God - the Word is God -, but with the tares, with lies, that Satan, the son of perdition, a former Cherub, the MAN of sin, has put in your brain, besides twisting posted messages of the brothers..

The discussion is about the Word of God, not on the tares of Devil that will be burned with everlasting fire. Get ready.

You have Bibles-there's no need to constantly post Scriptures of which you should be aware if you've read the WHOLE Bible, any valid version you care to use.

 

[robycop3]

You believe many of his doctrines failing to know where they came from.

Hard to believe anything from one who hasn't yet existed.

 

[1689Dave]

Hard to believe anything from one who hasn't yet existed.

The Reformers all identified the papacy as the Antichrist. Only those he duped think he is yet to come.
the first written history suggests Arnulf, the archbishop of Reims in the 10th century identified the Papacy as the Antichrist. Later Joachim of Fiore in the 12th century preached the Papacy was the Antichrist. This led to the martyrdoms of many Albigenses, Anabaptists and others who in part embraced his views.

And the archbishop Eberhard II in 1240 also related the papacy to the Antichrist. Synopsis of the End Times; A look at the popular beliefs of today by Mike Morrill.