was The Primary reason For The Cross The Love Of God, or His Holiness/Glory?

I think You are incorrect. A complete and perfect God (that WE worship) is lacking in nothing. I almost get the sense that you read the Love/Glory thing thing as "either/or" (linguistic usage). I read it as a mathematical "or". The highest glory is God himself, the fact (my opinion) that He is "primarily" motivated by Love in NO WAY makes Him out to be an idolater, that is YOUR opinion. (and I think it is a wrong one).

 

You ignored my whole argument and did not address it.

The only thing you said that had anything to do with my argument I'll address here.

God is motivated to do what he does by something.

Just as all men are motivated to do what they do by something. For some men in some instances what motivates them is appetite, etc, etc, etc...

But there is only one GOOD primary motive for anything to be done by man- that is the glory of God. This is why NOTHING an unregenerate sinner does is good. He does NOTHING primarily for God so everything he does is sin. Of course the Bible confirms this repeatedly.

God's motive for doing what he does must be right. The RIGHT motive is for his own glory.

So God, seeking to honor himself had his Son build the universe and then enter it and die for a multitude which no man can number of every tribe and kindred and nation and tongue. That multitude will praise him forever and bring him honor forever.

In fact, when it is all said and done and time is no more and the dust clears- this whole thing is going to wrap up with every knee bowing and every tongue confessing that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.

No God centered theology can deny this.

 

Glory

God is motivated by who He is. To be humble and to receive glory you can't keep it to your self, this is why there is what I call a triangle of glory; That we lift up Jesus and glorify Him, Jesus glorifies the Father, then the Father glorifies the Holy Spirit that is in us and lifts us up and we glorify the Son and the Son glorifies the Father and the Father glorifies the Holy Spirit that is in us, it a circle that never ends. The Father is on top of the triangle.

The primary reason is what all God is without lifted up one of His attributes higher than another.

 

No I did NOT ignore you, YOU say God is motivated primarily by and for His Glory, I say He is motivated primarily by His love. Please be accurate, even if you disagree with my positions.

I say God built the universe through His Son out of love, created mankind out of love, (Not a NEED to be glorified) endowed him with His image in order to fellowship with Him. Furthermore, I propose God receives Glory from His creation irrespective of what we do or do not do. Perhaps more glory is "given" when we willfully give our hearts and lives to Him and respond in Love to the Love he first demonstrated to us.

I emphatically reiterate, the position (mine) that God is primarily motivated by LOVE in no uncertain terms, does NOT make God an idolater and I find it "offensive" (could think of no other word) to suggest such.

For the record, I completely agree with your last statement about the "dust settling".

 

You did it again.

I made several arguments and you barely cursorily addressed a single one of them.

 

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Luke, a question: Does God love His creation? (specifically, man)

As Dr. Bob pointed out in one of his references: ~In love he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will--to the praise of his glorious grace, which he has freely given us in the One he loves.

This reference notes two motivations: Love and praise.

Is it not correct to say that God saved His creation, the creation that He loved, by the sacrifice on Calvary? In order that that creation might praise His glorious grace?