Was the Reagan administration corrupt?

[Crabtownboy]

As for Star Wars, sarcastically named by the leftist democrats, we do have a missile defense system in this country that works. Obama stopped the installation of one in Eastern Europe that was to stop missiles from the Islamic states but could have been reprogrammed for Russia. It was this Star Wars program that brought the Soviet Union to its knees! That is one reason the leftist democrats hate Reagan so much; he brought about the downfall of the "evil empire"!

Reagan spent 30 billion and we got nothing in return. The current system was built later after SDI was, in essence, abandoned in 1993. Reagan's idea was a failure, an expensive failure.

The Strategic Defense Initiative was eventually abandoned, and after a few years, it was nothing other than a short chapter in history books.

http://www.coldwar.org/articles/80s/SDI-StarWars.asp

And the current system is not Reagan's. It was begun under Bill Clinton.
Face it, Mr. Crab you are just not smart enough ti slime the Reagan presidency. You go to the leftist publications and they fail also!

I will take your comment as a compliment seeing as how I have shown you have no idea what you are talking about.

BTW, I collected information for engineers who worked on SDI. It was a failure from the beginning, but the company made a lot of money off Reagan's folly.

 

[InTheLight]

Reagan spent 30 billion and we got nothing in return. The current system was built later after SDI was, in essence, abandoned in 1993. Reagan's idea was a failure, an expensive failure.,

SDI was the final nail in the coffin of the Soviet Union. Mikhail Gorbachev was so frightened of it that he was willing to give up 50% of his strategic nuclear missiles if Reagan would agree not to test SDI outside the laboratory. Reagan held firm, insisting that the U.S. would not give up real world testing. This impasse led to the breakdown of the START talks in Reykjavik, Iceland in 1986.

Gorbachev was so spooked of SDI that he made many concessions in subsequent arms control talks.

BTW, I collected information for engineers who worked on SDI. It was a failure from the beginning, but the company made a lot of money off Reagan's folly.

It was NOT a failure from the beginning. In the 80's I was a research engineer on infrared sensors that would detect the heat signatures of Russian missile plumes, a key component in the overall scheme of SDI. Great progress was made in this area, indeed there were many, many subsystems in SDI that did work however it is true that the mechanism to actually fire on the Russian missiles, be it lasers or projectiles or focused X-rays proved to be unworkable.

The Russians had spies that had learned of the many successes on these many other systems and Gorbachev, given Reagan's unflagging belief that SDI would work, and given the possibilities that the US might be able to make it work, decided to cave in on the arms reduction talks rather than bankrupt the USSR coming up with countermeasures for SDI.

"Reagan's Folly" as you call it greatly accelerated the end of the Cold War and the collapse of the Soviet Union.

You like to read. I suggest "Reagan at Rejkjavik: Forty-Eight Hours that Ended the Cold War" by Ken Adelman.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/0062310194/?tag=baptis04-20

I got it from my library.

 

[OldRegular]

Reagan spent 30 billion and we got nothing in return. The current system was built later after SDI was, in essence, abandoned in 1993. Reagan's idea was a failure, an expensive failure.

Obama spent $800 + billion starting in 2009 on what he called shovel ready projects. Some years later he, on stage with the GE CEO, snickered: "There were no 'shovel ready projects!'"

Since then he has run up the debt an additional $7,000 billion dollars and will have doubled the national debt he inherited when he leaves office.

I will take your comment as a compliment seeing as how I have shown you have no idea what you are talking about.

BTW, I collected information for engineers who worked on SDI. It was a failure from the beginning, but the company made a lot of money off Reagan's folly.

The point I made was that because of Reagan the Soviet Union was defeated. Also because of Reagan and Star Wars we now have the start a missile defense system.

ITL has done a superb job of refuting your remarks.

 

[OldRegular]

The GOP loves to praise Reagan and paint him as a good, honest fellow while condemning Obama. Well, let's look at Reagan's record:

Socialists, Communists, Marxizts, etc! are by nature cortrupt and devious, just like you Crabtownboy!

 

[OldRegular]

Socialists, Communists, Marxizts, etc! are by nature cortrupt and devious, just like you Crabtownboy!

For example: It is not well Known that Franklin Delano Roosevelt extended the late 20's worldwide depression in the US by trying to spend his way out of the depression. Didn't happen so he started the draft to reduce unemployment and got us involved in WWII.

As I said: "Socialists, Communists, Marxizts, etc! are by nature cortrupt and devious,"

 

[OldRegular]

Obama epitomizes what is called "an empty suit". That is what is often portrayed on TV. The face is added to make the "Thing" look real!

Rather than being the super intelligent "Constitutional" scholar he is often portrayed Obama is a mindless person with one capability: He can read a teleprompter!

 

[Crabtownboy]

Obama epitomizes what is called "an empty suit". That is what is often portrayed on TV. The face is added to make the "Thing" look real!

Rather than being the super intelligent "Constitutional" scholar he is often portrayed Obama is a mindless person with one capability: He can read a teleprompter!

 

[InTheLight]

For example: It is not well Known that Franklin Delano Roosevelt extended the late 20's worldwide depression in the US by trying to spend his way out of the depression. Didn't happen so he started the draft to reduce unemployment and got us involved in WWII.

True, your version of history is not well known (thankfully). The draft was started in late 1940 in response to the war in Europe, which had been going on for over a year. It took the help of half of the Republicans in the House to get it passed, so there was consensus.

FDR didn't "get us into the war", the bombing of Pearl Harbor was the event that got us into WWII.

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[TCassidy]

I am not happy about much in the Democratic Party, but to me they are more interested in helping the poor, the ill, the elderly and children

Helping the children? By murdering 58,000,000 of them? Murdering 58,000,000 children is "helping" them?

 

[Revmitchell]

Erasing Ronald Reagan: The Illiberal War On Truth


The prospect of four more years of Barack Obama in the White House has caused several conservative voices (among them, The Wall Street Journal’s Daniel Henninger, Fox News commentator Charles Krauthammer, and noted Ronald Reagan scholar Paul Kengor) to opine that President Obama’s second term portends the passing of the Reagan era, the reversal of his pro-growth policies and the attempted burial of Reagan’s credo, “government is the problem.”

None of this is news. It is a given that Obama and his fellow progressives reject Reagan’s values and philosophy. They will continue to try to expand government.

There is, however, a more sinister dimension to the progressive agenda: Rush Limbaugh asserted that Obama wants to “erase every trace of Reagan from America”—not just to repeal and reverse Reagan’s policies, but to engage in wholesale historical revisionism by obfuscating Reagan’s record and reshaping public opinion about him. It serves the progressives’ interests if they can obscure the fact that Reagan’s policies of lower tax rates, a sound dollar, and reductions in governmental regulatory micromanagement enhanced prosperity and raised standards of living. Those of us who lived through the Reagan years remember the resulting economic growth, but nobody under the age of 30 has first-hand knowledge of those years.

Is it really possible that the left could rewrite the history of the Reagan presidency? Absolutely. They’ve already perverted the record of earlier Republican presidents. Take, as Exhibit A, Warren G. Harding—the president who always appears at the bottom of presidential rankings.


http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhen...ing-ronald-reagan-the-illiberal-war-on-truth/

 

[carpro]

LOL

Quite a few of the things listed in the OP are things to be proud of, like destruction of the labor movement and unemployment down to 7.%% after the Carter years.

The funny thing about Reagan is his administration provided the Justice department with everything they asked for.

The Obama administration is full of crooks but, stonewalls every request. Benghazi gun running to ISIS is worse than Iran contra every thought about being. The list of "uninvestigated" scandals is a long one.

 

[carpro]

True, your version of history is not well known (thankfully). The draft was started in late 1940 in response to the war in Europe, which had been going on for over a year. It took the help of half of the Republicans in the House to get it passed, so there was consensus.

FDR didn't "get us into the war", the bombing of Pearl Harbor was the event that got us into WWII.

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Even some National Guard divisions were activated and federalized in late 1940.

Also there is some evidence that FDR deliberately provoked the Japanese into an attack in order to suck us into the war.

 

[InTheLight]

Also there is some evidence that FDR deliberately provoked the Japanese into an attack in order to suck us into the war.

OK, Poncho.

 

[carpro]

OK, Poncho.

Are you denying there is evidence that FDR deliberately goaded Japan into an attack?

 

[Alcott]

Was the Reagan administration corrupt?

Yeah, ain't YOU? Ain't everbody?

 

[InTheLight]

Are you denying there is evidence that FDR deliberately goaded Japan into an attack?

Don't know anything about alleged 'evidence'. I was simply noting that this smacks of a conspiracy theory.

Japan was building up and planning for an attack on the US for nearly a year. They didn't decide to pull it off because FDR goaded them into it.

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[Revmitchell]

Japan attacked the US because it was in their hearts to do so. No other reason.

 

[carpro]

Don't know anything about alleged 'evidence'. I was simply noting that this smacks of a conspiracy theory.

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Conspiracy theory?

To some maybe , but the evidence was finally declassified in 1994.

It's there in black and white for anyone that wants to read it. They can make up their own minds. Could be just a series of coincidences ...or a well played out plan.

 

[Bob Hope]

The GOP loves to praise Reagan and paint him as a good, honest fellow while condemning Obama. Well, let's look at Reagan's record:

Without question, 100% corrupt. Google Ronald Reagan at the Bohemian Grove.

 

[Alcott]

Without question, 100% corrupt. Google Ronald Reagan at the Bohemian Grove.

I trust you did remember to thank him for the memories.