Watchman Nee

[Marcia]

This is what happened when Jim Moran, who was exposing the Local Church, died.

In January, 2003, Jim Moran, who operated Light Of Truth Ministries - a site critical of The Local Church, which is a cult of Christianity - died of a massive heart attack.

It now turns out that since Jim died without leaving a will The Local Church has managed to gain control over Jim's files, computer records and domain names.

This means that any information currently posted under the domain names thelocalchurch.org, ltm.org, biblesforamericaexposed.org, and recoveryversionexposed.org is now provided by The Local Church - the cult whose teachings and actions Jim Moran worked hard to expose.

http://www.apologeticsindex.org/l40.html#consumeralert

 

[Revmitchell]

Rev Mitchell....


While we are on the topic, because the "general council" of this web-site deems a particular group as teaching "heresy" does not make it so. I respectfully disagree with the charge.

I have dug into the ME folks website with all of their teachings. I differ from them in some areas, but they are CERTAINLY not heretics.

Same with the Grace Evangelical Society, who have also, imo, been falsely accused of heresy.

I am saddened at how quickly we Baptists will throw out the charge of "HERETIC" towards brothers and sisters who simply see some non-essentials differently than we do.


:godisgood:

They teach two salvations. One is of grace and for heaven, the other is of works and it is a salvation from hell for the millenium. It is heresy and if you believe it you would be saddened about the charge. But that does not determine truth. The word heresy is not simply used for essentials of the faith. But it refers to unorthodox views essential or otherwise.

 

[tinytim]

Just been given a book of his The Normal Christian Life, and before reading it wanted some further insight into the man and his beliefs. I only really know he planted churches in China, was persecuted, and died the year I was born.

Any feedback is much appreciated...

I tried doing a search here, but "nee" was deemed too short to include in the search criteria, so I have nothing...

Nee is connected with the recovery version... Bad.

All the ME proponants that used to be here held him up in high regards... as they did Witness Lee.

I consider him a heretic.

Rev is right.. he is very connected to the ME heretics.

 

[tinytim]

They teach two salvations. One is of grace and for heaven, the other is of works and it is a salvation from hell for the millenium. It is heresy and if you believe it you would be saddened about the charge. But that does not determine truth. The word heresy is not simply used for essentials of the faith. But it refers to unorthodox views essential or otherwise.

AMEN... We need to use "heretic" when it comes to promoting 2 different salvations...

Any doctrine that teaches a Millenial purgatory is heresy...

It is either by Grace alone.. or it is heresy.

 

[Revmitchell]

Just been given a book of his The Normal Christian Life, and before reading it wanted some further insight into the man and his beliefs. I only really know he planted churches in China, was persecuted, and died the year I was born.

Any feedback is much appreciated...

I tried doing a search here, but "nee" was deemed too short to include in the search criteria, so I have nothing...

Try here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/search.php?searchid=591887

 

[gb93433]

Here's more deception from the Local Church:

The Local Church includes a number of organizations that not always clearly reveal their connection to the movement. These organizations include Living Stream Ministry (publishing arm), Sword Distributing, The Lord's Recovery, Church of Recovery, Bibles for America, Bibles for New Zealand, Christian Websites, Amana Christian Bookstore, Emanna (devotions).

The Local Church publishes the Recovery Version of the Bible.

Related web sites include, "Christian Websites," "Contending for the Faith," "Emanna"

www.lifeway.com, and http://www.zondervan.com sells some of his books too.

 

[Marcia]

www.lifeway.com, and http://www.zondervan.com sells some of his books too.

I'm not at all surprised. In fact, you can find a lot of books with bad teachings published by Christian publishers and sold by Christian bookstores/online stores. It's really sad.

I'm always telling people when I speak on my ministry areas that they cannot accept things because a Christian or some Christians teach or promote them, no matter who they are. I've seen too much bad stuff taught and promoted. Everything needs to be carefully examined using God's word.

 

[webdog]

Try here:

http://www.baptistboard.com/search.php?searchid=591887

That link doesn't work.

Thanks for all the responses, I'll read it and get back with my thoughts on his book.

 

[Revmitchell]

That link doesn't work.

Thanks for all the responses, I'll read it and get back with my thoughts on his book.

When you do your search do not just do "nee" but do watchman nee. I came up with several pages.

 

[webdog]

When you do your search do not just do "nee" but do watchman nee. I came up with several pages.

I tried that initially, and came up with many pages...but none pertaining to Watchman Nee, that is why I started this thread.

 

[Revmitchell]

I tried that initially, and came up with many pages...but none pertaining to Watchman Nee, that is why I started this thread.

Well did you get anything helpful yet? In short he is a mystical ME'er

 

[webdog]

Well did you get anything helpful yet? In short he is a mystical ME'er

I did. The fact he holds to ME doesn't bother me as much as the modalism does, as I like much of what I read of Charles Stanley (a ME'er). If the charges of modalism and mysticism are true, when I get to that in the book, I will make note of that.
This is my pastor's favorite book, and I will have to discuss this with him when I get to it, as he asked for my thoughts on it when I'm done. If feelings are a big part of Nee's work, I will discuss this with my pastor, as I'm getting the impression he relies on this quite a bit...and that concerns me.

 

[Revmitchell]

I did. The fact he holds to ME doesn't bother me as much as the modalism does, as I like much of what I read of Charles Stanley (a ME'er). If the charges of modalism and mysticism are true, when I get to that in the book, I will make note of that.
This is my pastor's favorite book, and I will have to discuss this with him when I get to it, as he asked for my thoughts on it when I'm done. If feelings are a big part of Nee's work, I will discuss this with my pastor, as I'm getting the impression he relies on this quite a bit...and that concerns me.

Do you realize that ME'ers interpret passages like john 3 in a completely different light?