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We need to have a national conversation about a ban on hammers.

InTheLight

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Does anyone remember what old whatshisname used to kill 68 people in oklahoma city? Was it a high capacity magazine?

Of course not. Now please list the number of times that an explosive laden truck has been used to kill American citizens. Then tell me which is more easily accomplished--shooting a semi-auto gun into a crowd of people or meticulously gathering components over the stretch of months to construct a truck bomb?
 

Zaac

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Let's be real. Can anyone kill 28 people in less than 5 minutes with any of these 'weapons'.

If he had killed one person instead of 28, would we still be talking about banning guns?

How about President Obama start with a ban in his hometown of Chicago and see how much that affects the DAILY shootings and killings.
 

OldRegular

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Don't forget to include in your national discussion on banning hammers the following. Why talk about just one, when we should actually consider all of them?

Rocks, bricks, concrete blocks
Kitchen knives, hunting knives, pocket knives
Tree limbs
2x4 lumber (all size that can kill, too.
Ice picks
Tire irons
Axes, chain saws
Baseball bats, hocky sticks
Frying pans
Scissors
Pitch forks, garden hoes
Rat poison
Acids with concentrations high enough to kill
Matches, lighters, flint & steel, (anything that can generate a flame)
Rope, wire, telephone cords
Electric radios and anything else that can be dropped into a bathtub
Forks & spoons as they can be made into knives
Glass as it can be broken into shards







Human hands as they can kill without any of the above.

Don't forget how many were killed on 9/11/01 with box cutters. And then there are the four assassinated on 9/11/12 because of the Obama administration's negligence!
 

Don

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If he had killed one person instead of 28, would we still be talking about banning guns?

How about President Obama start with a ban in his hometown of Chicago and see how much that affects the DAILY shootings and killings.

That's funny, because of how strict gun control in Illinois already is. For example, if you possess a gun, you are required to possess an Illinois Firearms Owner ID (FOID). If you wish to purchase firearms or ammunition in Illinois, you must present your FOID; no FOID, no purchase. If police come into your house for any reason, and see a firearm or ammunition, they are authorized to ask you to produce your FOID; not having your FOID is an automatic fine of around $500.

We keep hearing about Chicago shootings, but nothing about whether the perpetrators had their FOIDs....
 

Revmitchell

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Of course not. Now please list the number of times that an explosive laden truck has been used to kill American citizens. Then tell me which is more easily accomplished--shooting a semi-auto gun into a crowd of people or meticulously gathering components over the stretch of months to construct a truck bomb?

And you miss the point again.
 

saturneptune

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If he had killed one person instead of 28, would we still be talking about banning guns?

How about President Obama start with a ban in his hometown of Chicago and see how much that affects the DAILY shootings and killings.
Why the negative comment about Obama? It is the mindset you have posted for the last six months that allowed him to be reelected. On top of that, how many did you tell they were headed to hell for voting for Romney?
 

InTheLight

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And you miss the point again.

I get your point--that semi-auto weapons are not the only way to commit mass murder.

But we don't have a rash of truck bomb killings going on in the U.S. The OK City bombing stands alone. We DO have an ongoing problem of mass murders committed with semi-auto weapons. So rather than address the problem of semi-auto weapons you divert attention to other methods of killing.
 

InTheLight

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and if we get rid of any guns we will. My point is the guns automatic or otherwise is not the issue. it will happen with or without them.

You really think if access to guns were restricted that wackos would turn to truck bombs to pull off their evil deeds.

OK, so let's just live with four to six mass murdering sprees a year committed with guns and not do a thing. :tear:
 

Revmitchell

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You really think if access to guns were restricted that wackos would turn to truck bombs to pull off their evil deeds.

Yes, the issue is not guns it is the evil in their hearts.

OK, so let's just live with four to six mass murdering sprees a year committed with guns and not do a thing. :tear:

This assumes that making no change to gun laws mean there is not change made in any other way as well and it is incorrect. Let's discuss real solutions not bandaids on shotgun wounds.
 

poncho

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You really think if access to guns were restricted that wackos would turn to truck bombs to pull off their evil deeds.

OK, so let's just live with four to six mass murdering sprees a year committed with guns and not do a thing. :tear:

Do you own a gun? If so, what are the reasons?
 

Mexdeaf

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Some truths we conveniently forget:

Guns themselves are not the evil here.

Passing laws only stops honest people- just like locks.

If some one is sick enough to kill, they will find a way.

Thousands more are killed each year by other means but no one wants to outlaw those means.

Public hysteria is a lousy reason for enacting new legislation. There should be a "cooling off period" for discussing and enacting new laws during times such as these.
 

Revmitchell

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Some truths we conveniently forget:

Guns themselves are not the evil here.

Passing laws only stops honest people- just like locks.

If some one is sick enough to kill, they will find a way.

Thousands more are killed each year by other means but no one wants to outlaw those means.

Public hysteria is a lousy reason for enacting new legislation. There should be a "cooling off period" for discussing and enacting new laws during times such as these.

More commons sense thanks. But libbies are not interested in sober thinking. They have their agenda and are just waiting for the right tragedy to push it. socialism 101
 

Don

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Ronald Reagen was shot with a revolver. John Lennon and Harvey Milk were each killed with a revolver.

JFK was assassinated with a bolt-action rifle.

The sidearm of the American military--those not lucky enough to be issued a Colt 1911 .45--was the .38 revolver.

Banning semi-auto weapons won't be enough. Banning "military style" weapons won't be enough.

Reagen said, "Peace through strength." Give it some thought.
 

InTheLight

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Ronald Reagen was shot with a revolver. John Lennon and Harvey Milk were each killed with a revolver.

JFK was assassinated with a bolt-action rifle.

The sidearm of the American military--those not lucky enough to be issued a Colt 1911 .45--was the .38 revolver.

Banning semi-auto weapons won't be enough. Banning "military style" weapons won't be enough.

Reagen said, "Peace through strength." Give it some thought.

This is all true. Now I'd like to see a list of more than 10 people that were killed at one time with a revolver or bolt-action rifle.
 
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