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Featured WHAT ARE THE BASIC PROBLEMS IN LORDSHIP SALVATION?

Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by Steven_15, May 14, 2020.

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  1. Steven_15

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    There's a reason for him not to retract on his heresy:

    The heresy of lordship salvation theory was & is used to appeal to & enslave gullible christians saved in large numbers in the Billy Graham crusades in order to promote their own bellies and those of their cronies!

    Money is involved...
     
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    no but it doesn't matter God and I know.

    Romans 8:16 The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
     
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    I have read it. Post the entire moral law and I will give you an answer.
     
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    MacArthur has based his beliefs of LS on volumes of scripture which, according to him, support his beliefs.

    If any wish to discredit his views then first you must be able to accurately state what he believes, then show how the scripture he used to support those beliefs has been misinterpreted (please be ready for a deep dive into biblical Greek), and then give your own supporting scripture for your views.

    Just saying, “that’s a lie” and then calling people names, slandering their motives, and questioning their salvation is a poor debate strategy and doesn’t support your position.

    peace to you
     
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    Faith never has saved any lost sinner, as its the object of that faith who saves!
     
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    God saves the lost sinner apart from anything that they do!
     
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    How can God credit their faith when its His gift to them, and He is the one who elected them?
     
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    God did not select us to get saved due to us having faith, bit we have that faith due to His election!
     
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    Van is consistent at least, as his view would be Arminian in nature....
     
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    The inherit problem with LS taking too far would be trying to impose a standard on just how much of Jesus lordship required to really ever be saved!
     
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    That is the question that LS has hard time answering!
     
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    I am a calvinist, and agree with the gist of the LS side, but would also like to have those who are fellow Christians allow for different growth stages in others lives!
     
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    When Jesus saves us, right then he became Lord over our lives....
     
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    Its that ole "either Jesus is Lord over all, or else he is Lord over none"
     
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    Dr Mac is just stating there that if we profess to be saved by jesus, then we shall live in convenience to His will and His word.... Not perfectly, but when we fail to do that, we need to confess that to God, hget cleansed, and keep moving on!
     
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    His concern would be that many of those thinking that they were saved really were not!
     
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    Yes you are wrong, you are making no effort to address the issue. Deflection on display.
     
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    Utter nonsense, yet another taint so post devoid of any support.
     
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    Regeneration occurs when God places a person into Christ were they are "born anew" as a new creature. God chooses individuals for salvation through or on the basis of faith, prior to placing them in Christ. Your view is unbiblical.
     
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