WHAT ARE THE BASIC PROBLEMS IN LORDSHIP SALVATION?

[Steven_15]

What are the unbiblical theological inconsistencies in Lordship Salvation (LS)?

Promoters of LS tend to look at other's faults while hiding their own sins in view God's command in Mathew 5:48 and accusing/judging other christians in the name of church discipline.

They tend to excuse their own sins as "unknown".

They seem to believe that it is their sin confessions which enable them to have fellowship with God. Thus they deny the faith in grace given through Christ's atonement which enables them to fellowship with God!

You may post your opinions & the hardships you had faced with the legalists. Lordship Salvationists need not answer.

 

[Rob_BW]

Promoters of LS tend to look at other's faults while hiding their own sins in view God's command in Mathew 5:48.

They tend to excuse their own sins as "unknown".

While I am not on the LS side, these two arguments are (alleged) faults against people, not faults of their system.

 

[Steven_15]

While I am not on the LS side, these two arguments are (alleged) faults against people, not faults of their system.

Don't the people follow the system?

 

[Rob_BW]

Don't the people follow the system?

Is there a fault in Christianity since we all sin?

If you'd like to point out what in their system you believe encourages the behavior you claim, then by all means post your proof.

 

[Steven_15]

Is there a fault in Christianity since we all sin?

If you'd like to point out what in their system you believe encourages the behavior you claim, then by all means post your proof.

So you believe the stated behavior is unbiblical?

 

[Rob_BW]

So you believe the stated behavior is unbiblical?

I'm not sure what you're asking.

Ignoring our own sin while focusing on the sin of others is specifically dealt with in Scripture. When you said excusing sin as unknown, I'm not clear on what that means either.

Of course, if you would provide examples instead of mere accusations, then maybe it would clear things up.

 

[Steven_15]

I'm not sure what you're asking.

Ignoring our own sin while focusing on the sin of others is specifically dealt with in Scripture. When you said excusing sin as unknown, I'm not clear on what that means either.

Of course, if you would provide examples instead of mere accusations, then maybe it would clear things up.

Do you believe there are basic theological flaws in Lordship salvation theory?

 

[Rob_BW]

Do you believe there are basic theological flaws in Lordship salvation theory?

Did you read my first post?

Question after question without replying to my posts is growing wearisome. This isn't the first time this topic has come up on the baptistboard, so if we're going to go through it again I think something more than "List your unsubstantiated gripes about Lordship Salvation" should be in order.

 

[Steven_15]

Did you read my first post?

Question after question without replying to my posts is growing wearisome. This isn't the first time this topic has come up on the baptistboard, so if we're going to go through it again I think something more than "List your unsubstantiated gripes about Lordship Salvation" should be in order.

If you believe there are no grave theological flaws in lordship salvation theory, this thread is not for you. You can keep yourself out.

 

[Rob_BW]

I'm waiting for someone to post theological flaws, as I would likely find interest in them.

So far all I see are unsubstantiated character flaws.

Instead of getting defensive, why not flesh out how you believe the system influences the actions of its adherents?

 

[Steven_15]

I'm waiting for someone to post theological flaws, as I would likely find interest in them.

So far all I see are unsubstantiated character flaws.

Instead of getting defensive, why not flesh out how you believe the system influences the actions of its adherents?

Don't digress from the OP. If you are incapable of identifying the grave flaws in lordship salvation theory, keep yourself off. Don't pretend to not belong to the lordship salvation camp.

 

[Reynolds]

If you believe there are no grave theological flaws in lordship salvation theory, this thread is not for you. You can keep yourself out.

IMO there are no grave theological flaws with Lordship Salvation. If you believe there are, post them.
The major flaws lie in the Easy Believerism camp.

 

[Steven_15]

IMO there are no grave theological flaws with Lordship Salvation. If you believe there are, post them.
The major flaws lie in the Easy Believerism camp.

Wait and see.

 

[Rob_BW]

Don't digress from the OP. If you are incapable of identifying the grave flaws in lordship salvation theory, keep yourself off. Don't pretend to not belong to the lordship salvation camp.

Alas, I'm in Kuwait, or I'd show you a copy of the GES newsletter that I'm subscribed to.

Or you could do your homework and search this forum for old threads. I'm clearly not in the LS camp. But from your posts in here already, it's clear that you have no desire to do your homework. Easier to make accusations against me than to research or engage.

 

[Steven_15]

Alas, I'm in Kuwait, or I'd show you a copy of the GES newsletter that I'm subscribed to.

Or you could do your homework and search this forum for old threads. I'm clearly not in the LS camp. But from your posts in here already, it's clear that you have no desire to do your homework. Easier to make accusations against me than to research or engage.

Don't give lame excuses under a pretext. And don't worry about my homework.
Stick with the OP (Snip)

 

[Rob_BW]

What is Lordship Salvation?

TCassidy sums up the anti-LS view better than I ever could.

 

[Rob_BW]

Don't give lame excuses under a pretext. And don't worry about my homework. Stick with the OP.

Lol, I'm (snip) asking you to substantiate your points? (snip)

I dislike LS almost as much as I dislike poor arguments.

 

[Rob_BW]

Free Grace Theology: Mocking God?

 

[Steven_15]

What is Lordship Salvation?

TCassidy sums up the anti-LS view better than I ever could.

Rubbish. Read the OP properly.

 

[Steven_15]

Free Grace Theology: Mocking God?

You belong to lordship salvation. People have identified your disguise. Read the OP Again.