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What are the distinctives of "Reformed Baptist"?

JonC

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@Martin Marprelate

You have made an interesting claim (or, to be more precise, you have repeatedly an interesting claim). But you have not been able to substantiate that claim.

You say that there are passages in the Bible that I reject. If this is true then you would provide those passages and I would be grateful for you pointing it out.


If it helps (and as a reminder of what I believe) here is a summary if my views on the topics I have discussed (it is just a summary). It is what you have called a "heresy".


God created Adam (man) from the dust, planted a Garden and placed Adam there. God commanded Adam not to eat of the fruit of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil (Gen 2). God told Adam that in the day he ate of the fruit death would be certain (Gen 2:17). Adam transgressed God’s command and his eyes were opened (Gen 3:6-7). God told Adam that because of his transgression he would work the land (the land was cursed) until he died, for he was dust and to dust he would return (Gen 3:19). God told the Serpent that he would put enmity between him and the woman, and between their offspring, that He would crush its head and he would strike His heel (Gen 3:15).

Adam had become like God, knowing good and evil. So that he would not take from the Tree of Life and live forever, God cast Adam out of the Garden, back to the place from which he was created (Gen 3:21-24).
Through Adam’s sin death entered the world and spread to all man, for all have sinned Rom 5:12). Sin was in the world before God gave the Law, but sin was not charged against people as a transgression as they did not break a command (vs. 15). Nevertheless, death reigned even where there was no law because of sin.

Just as through the disobedience of one man, Adam the many were made sinners , so also through the obedience of the one man, Christ, the many will be made righteous (Rom 5:18-19).

The wages of sin is death (Rom 6:23), for sin produces death (James 1:15). Death spread to all because all have sinned (Romans 5:12). It is appointed man once to die and then the Judgment. (Heb 9:27). I believe that God became man (truly man) like us but without sin (Heb 4:15). He bore our sins bodily on the cross (1 Peter 2:24).
God became one of us (Heb 2:11-13) so that we would become like Him (Jn 15:4; Gal 2:20; 2 Cor 3:18) and share in His glory (Rom 8:17).

The wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is life in Christ Jesus (Rom 6:23). The second statement (the gift of God) does not nullify the first (the wages of sin), because sin produces death (James 1:15). But it does remove the sting of death (1 Cor 15:55) because although we die yet shall we live (John 11:25).


Please point out any passages I have rejected. If there are any I need to examine them and revise my belief.

Just saying I reject passages does not help without providing the passages I reject.
 

Silverhair

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Also, you don't want to quote Guzik, he is a Calvinist, and also does speak favorably of Luther.

David Guzik's Position on Calvinism​

Personal Beliefs​

  • David Guzik does not identify as a Calvinist.
  • He appreciates many aspects of Reformed and Calvinistic theology but does not fully agree with all their doctrines.

Key Points of Disagreement​

  • Guzik emphasizes that he believes in:
    • God's sovereignty
    • Man's inability to save himself
    • The importance of God's covenants in redemption
  • He disagrees with the Calvinistic view that regeneration precedes faith, which suggests that one must be born again before believing.

Relationship with Calvinism​

  • Guzik acknowledges that many people in the Calvary Chapel movement may hold views that blend elements of both Calvinism and Arminianism.
  • He aims to let Scripture speak for itself, rather than strictly adhering to either Calvinist or Arminian interpretations.

Conclusion​

While Guzik values certain teachings from Calvinist thinkers, he does not classify himself as a Calvinist and maintains a nuanced approach to the doctrines of salvation.


Auto-generated based on listed sources Enduring Word calvarychapel.com
 

Martin Marprelate

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It is what you have called a "heresy".
I have not called your views a heresy - ever. I never call anyone's views on a forum a heresy.
I called Charles Taze Russell's views heretical, and pointed out that he, and others like him, claimed "just to believe the Scriptures" as you claim to do.
 

JonC

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I have not called your views a heresy - ever. I never call anyone's views on a forum a heresy.
I called Charles Taze Russell's views heretical, and pointed out that he, and others like him, claimed "just to believe the Scriptures" as you claim to do.
Yes you did, messages and reports to staff (I can see the reports and I was included in the pm's).

Look through your messages.
 
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JonC

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@Martin Marprelate

You claimed that I reject passages. If this is true then I would call my belief heresy and correct it so that it does not reject Scripture.

I care less about what you think about my beliefs than I do about holding a biblical beluef.

You made a claim, which I take seriously. Often others can see what we miss. Please let me know the passages I rejected and how I rejected them.
 

JesusFan

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@Martin Marprelate

You claimed that I reject passages. If this is true then I would call my belief heresy and correct it so that it does not reject Scripture.

I care less about what you think about my beliefs than I do about holding a biblical beluef.

You made a claim, which I take seriously. Often others can see what we miss. Please let me know the passages I rejected and how I rejected them.
You are using the scriptures at times with what some of us see as being A miS understanding OF those passages
 

Martin Marprelate

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Yes you did, messages and reports to staff (I can see the reports and I was included in the pm's).

Look through your messages.
I never call people heretics. You have called my views heretical on the open forum, but I have never called anyone a heretic. You will not find anywhere that I called you a heretic.
 

Martin Marprelate

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@Martin Marprelate

You claimed that I reject passages. If this is true then I would call my belief heresy and correct it so that it does not reject Scripture.

I care less about what you think about my beliefs than I do about holding a biblical beluef.

You made a claim, which I take seriously. Often others can see what we miss. Please let me know the passages I rejected and how I rejected them.
Which post are you thinking of? Let's have chapter and verse.

You, on the other hand have repeatedly accused me and every other Reformed Baptist of being closet Roman Catholics. Here your post #64.
JonC said:
If you took your faith and separated what was actually in God's Word from what you believe is somehow taught by God's Word (when "properly understood" as given by the demi-gods...or Re-formers of RCC theology) you have mostly re-formed RCC theology and very little of God's Word.
 
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