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What are the distinctives of "Reformed Baptist"?

Marooncat79

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Good summary. The article highlights what may be the key to where Reformed theology departed from the Christian faith - it views the New Covenant as the righteous of God manifested through the Law and the moral aspects of the Law as the normative standard for their sect.

Christianity, however, holds the New Covenant as the righteousness of God manifested apart from the Law abd the normative Standard as Christ Himself (the law of Christ). This is nonsense in Regirmed theology as they tend to view fulfilled as nullified and cannot but view redemption exceot through the lens of 16th century judicial philosophy.

But good article. It gives people a choice - God's Word or the beliefs the article claims to be what the Bible "really" teaches.
Reformed Theology is Biblical Theology. It is central to the christian faith and has never departed from it as you say
 

JonC

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Reformed Theology is Biblical Theology. It is central to the christian faith and has never departed from it as you say
That depends on how you define "biblical".

JW, SDS, the prosperity gospel.....they all believe their theology is biblical. And by the standard Reformed theology is "biblical", they meet that definition.

By "biblical" I mean actually in the Word of God (not ideas "based on" the Bible.....Christian fiction is based on Scripture).

It departs from Scripture and the Christian faith. I do not mean it "departed from" as it was never there.


Think about it. Reformed theology holds that the New Covenant is the manifestation 9f God's righteousness through the Law (specifically the moral aspects of the Law).

But the Bible says that it is "the manifestation of God's righteousness apart from the Law:.


Reformed theology is "easy believism". That is perhaps why people find it attractive at first.
But because it is so superficial and shallow it keeps building on its philosophy to create a more complex myth.
Making the myth more detailed and complex does nothing to eliminate its shalliwness.

Reformed Theology is like playing Dungeons & Dragons to study reality. The mythology can be highly developed, mut the more one is drawn into the myth the farther one is drawn from truth.


I can show you what I believe in God's own words.

You and @Martin Marprelate have to go to your "Dungeon master" to tell you what is "realky" going on because you believe it simply cannot be what God has actually said.
 
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JonC

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You mean like Augustine and Calvin and many of those of the calvinist mind set.
You will never be able to show @Zaatar71 or @Martin Marprelate their error. They have a different authority.

"What is written", God's own words, does not matter to them. What matters to them is what their tradition tells them the Bible "realky" teaches. They hold a type of Gnosticism in that the Bible is inferior to a "secret knowledge" revealed through "God-given" teachers.

They cannot find their faith in God's Word, only in their understanding of what is "realky" taught by the Bible.
 

Van

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The distinctives as stated in the above link concerning "Reformed Baptists:"

1) The Bible alone is the final authority for faith and practice. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists

2) The church exists for the glory of God, 1 Peter 2:9-10. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists. But the church is not a place, but the assembly of born anew believers, wherever they gather for God's purpose. And yes, we are to appeal to the lost using things in common so that we might win some.

3) The church should not seek to please attendees, as ear ticklers do, but to preach Christ crucified for their wretched sinfulness. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

4) The church is not led by leaders selected by the church members, This is NOT consistent with Traditional Baptists.

5) Salvation is not attained by "easy believism" but is indicated by a changed life. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

6) The ten commandments of the Old Testament as still in effect to regulate the life of a born anew believer. This is NOT consistent with Transitional Baptists. We are under the Law of Liberty which of course includes, you shall love your God with all your heart, mind and soul, and you shall love your neighbor as yourself. Traditional Baptists recognize Christ overwrote the 10 commandments.

7) Leadership of the church is restricted to males only. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

8) Church members are responsible to take seriously their duties to attend, serve, be served, and support their local church. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.


The above list does not cite their denial that Christ died as a ransom for all, or the Reformed Baptist claim that the lost have no opportunity to change the foreordained outcome of their life or the lives of their loved ones.
 
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Zaatar71

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You will never be able to show @Zaatar71 or @Martin Marprelate their error. They have a different authority.
We do. We use the God given means of scripture, preaching , and teaching. Following The apostolic example laid out in scripture, unlike you, Van, and Silverhair, who despise God's means, and God's men...and go about to invent your own theology, based on your own understanding. You false ideas will not get off the ground to be able to fly.
"What is written", God's own words, does not matter to them.
All you have is demeaning accusations, and no substance whatsoever. This is shameful on your part. Martin is a pastor somewhere oversea, and you attempt to demean him nonstop! This is not godly conduct is it? We both would say that what is written is God's own words. Where we differ from you is, we believe it needs to be understood, unlike what you suggest.
What matters to them is what their tradition tells them the Bible "realky" teaches.
Another accusation with no substance. We can explain what matters to us, and we can identify a false teacher like you, when we read your posts
They hold a type of Gnosticism
Another ungodly accusation, that neither of us hold, in fact that is more what you offer.
in that the Bible is inferior
neither one of us has said such nonsense, only you three men suggest this.
to a "secret knowledge" revealed through "God-given" teachers.
There are God given teachers, which evidently God has not allowed you to discover yet.
They cannot find their faith in God's Word,
All we believe is derived from the word of God. Your accusations identify you as an accuser of the brethren.
only in their understanding of what is "realky" taught by the Bible.
You need much help,
 

JonC

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The distinctives as stated in the above link concerning "Reformed Baptists:"

1) The Bible alone is the final authority for faith and practice. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists

2) The church exists for the glory of God, 1 Peter 2:9-10. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists. But the church is not a place, but the assembly of born anew believers, wherever they gather for God's purpose. And yes, we are to appeal to the lost using things in common so that we might win some.

3) The church should not seek to please attendees, as ear ticklers do, but to preach Christ crucified for their wretched sinfulness. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

4) The church is not led by leaders selected by the church members, This is NOT consistent with Traditional Baptists.

5) Salvation is not attained by "easy believism" but is indicated by a changed life. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

6) The ten commandments of the Old Testament as still in effect to regulate the life of a born anew believer. This is NOT consistent with Transitional Baptists. We are under the Law of Liberty which of course includes, you shall love your God with all your heart, mind and soul, and you shall love your neighbor as yourself. Traditional Baptists recognize Christ overwrote the 10 commandments.

7) Leadership of the church is restricted to males only. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.

8) Church members are responsible to take seriously their duties to attend, serve, be served, and support their local church. This is consistent with Traditional Baptists.


The above list does not cite their denial that Christ died as a ransom for all, or the Reformed Baptist claim that the lost have no opportunity to change the foreordained outcome of their life or the lives of their loved ones.
The link also dies not point out differences in terms ("double-speak").

As @Martin Marprelate and @Marooncat79 have demonstrated, when the Regirmed say "the Bible is the final authority" they mean "what we believe the Bible teaches", NOT God's Word itself.

Reformed Theology depends on many philosophical ideas developed through the RCC through time about God, about redemotion, being correct enough to adopt and others correct enough to revise.

The problem is less these philosophies and more how Reformed Thrology hold these theories. They hold them on the level of God's words and they build on them.
 
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