What are the Main differences between reformed Baptists and other Baptists then?

That's a high water mark for him. Better than the usual 0.

 

Somewhere around Brownsville...

 

In Hoboken.


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Tom, do you consider yourself a confessional, RB? Not a gotcha question. Homey don't play that game.


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It is important to keep in mind that not all dispensational baptists groups are automatically Darby like or cling desperately to what he taught in the "chart."

The same must also be admitted by the convenant group. Not all are replacement theologians who cling to Augustine as there authority.

The total embracing of either leads to mishandling Scriptures, allowing for racism, political entanglements, strive for popularity, all manner of ungodliness, ....

One can actually be both. One can actually be balanced and it is quite gratifying to see how well the two blend together.

The one area that also rubs the BB raw with old threads is that determined group on both sides who would either dismiss the literalness of the millennium or regulate it to as happening, and the other who mightily insist on a pretribulational rapture.

Again, there is balance. One can hold to a strick rendering of prophecy including a millennial reign, still look for and forward to the Lord Jesus Christ return to catch us away as Paul clearly states will occur, that not every promise in the Scriptures is made and able to be claimed by the believer, yet also understand that God's covenants are not broken promises.

Not to rabbit trail the thread, but showing that some such as C. H. Spurgeon blended the two into cohesiveness.

 

Reformed are Calvinists others may not be.

 

Non Confession based Baptists believe the Bible means what it says, Jesus will reign on earth for 1000 years.
Non Confession based Baptists believe Christ died as a ransom for all.
Non Confession based Baptists believe Christ became the propitiation (or means of salvation) for the whole world.
Non Confession based Baptists believe the Elders report and are accountable to the congregation.
Non Confession based Baptists believe we are saved by grace through faith.
Non Confession based Baptists believe in open communion, open to all professing believers.

Reformed Baptists deny the earthly 1000 year reign.
Reformed Baptists deny Christ died as a ransom for all.
Reformed Baptists deny Christ is the propitiation (means of salvation) for the whole world.
Reformed Baptists deny that church leaders (no matter the title) are accountable to the congregation.
Reformed Baptists deny we are saved by grace through faith, they claim we are saved then given faith.
Reformed Baptists deny open communion to all professing believers.

 

....lol confused
Extremely nuanced
Unique...special

 

I do not speak for you?! And here I thought we had completed the Vulcan theological mind meld.

 

I can't remember seeing so much error in one place.

Where does faith come from?

 

No argument from me.

 

Not to put too fine a point on it, but I did not say, nor imply that every non confession based baptist holds those biblical views, nor every Confession based Baptist holds the bogus views.

 

Yet another taint so post. Why not actually address the topic. Post # 31 accurately describes the main differences between Confession based Baptists and other Baptists.

Where does faith come from? Let me answer you as you answered the topic question. Faith does not come from irresistible grace. Now have I answered your question or side stepped it?

How about we are saved by grace through faith, thus our faith in Christ preceded receiving grace. When you enter a room through a door, you go through the door before you enter the room. This is not rocket science.

Faith comes from hearing and learning from the gospel. God gave us the ability to hear and respond to the gospel. Some of us lose that ability, the first soil of Matthew 13, but the rest are able to respond.
Ask yourself where did the faith of the men entering heaven (Matthew 23:13) come from? Not irresistible grace for they were blocked.

 

John 6:29 uses an ambiguous term, "work of God" and so Confession based Baptists claim the phrase means this is the work God does in you. However, Dr. Dan Wallace renders the phrase this way, "29 Jesus replied, “This is the deed God requires—to believe in the one whom he sent.” So "work of God" refers to work God requires us to do. Therefore the verse does not actually support the Confession based view.

And Ephesians 1:19-20 is talking about God working in us after we believe, not before. So yet again, ambiguous verses are cited to support the bogus views of Confession based Baptists.

What does it mean for God to grant repentance? Yet another ambiguous phrase. Does it mean instill repentance or does it mean "allow" repentance. When God hardened the hearts in Romans 11, He was not allowing or granting repentance, He was preventing it.

Jesus is the author (originator) and perfecter (finisher) of faith. We trust in Him. Hebrews 12:2 in no way supports instilled faith.

Next we have God giving us a "measure of faith" which refers to our part of the ministry of the body of Christ and occurs after we are saved, not before.

On and on we could go yet again, demonstrating that there is no actual support in scripture for the bogus views of Confession based Baptists.