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What Bothers You About the Supremacy of God

Particular

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LOL....
You self-admittedly do not know the meaning of "free will", (or at least how various expressions of the idea is used in discussion) i.e. "contra-causal free will", a term anyone meaningfully well versed on the topic knows, so how do you know it is a foreign concept in Scripture? :Wink
LOL, why should any Christian care? LOL
 

HeirofSalvation

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Of course I can. I do a word search of scripture and nowhere do I find contra-casual free-will. Thus, it is merely a philosophy conjured up by an irrelevant human being.
*sigh* :Frown
Neither "polyamory" nor "monogomy" are words used in Scripture.....
But one must know the definition of those words to say with any reasonable credibility whether or not the Scripture has anything to say about them, and simply doing a word search isn't sufficient study. If you don't know what they mean you can neither affirm nor deny whether the Scriptures have anything to say about them (it does on both counts in case you were wondering).

It is so with "contra-causal free will". Anyone reasonably well versed on this debate knows what that means.
You are digging yourself into a hole frankly by trying to pass off willing ignorance as sanctimonious piety.
That dog won't hunt.

You may think this folksy wisdom you are trying to express serves you, but I assure you it does not. It makes you no more biblically faithful and fools no one else. It just makes you unqualified to speak on the topic credibly.
 

Particular

Well-Known Member
*sigh* :Frown
Neither "polyamory" nor "monogomy" are words used in Scripture.....
But one must know the definition of those words to say with any reasonable credibility whether or not the Scripture has anything to say about them, and simply doing a word search isn't sufficient study. If you don't know what they mean you can neither affirm nor deny whether the Scriptures have anything to say about them (it does on both counts in case you were wondering).

It is so with "contra-causal free will". Anyone reasonably well versed on this debate knows what that means.
You are digging yourself into a hole frankly by trying to pass off willing ignorance as sanctimonious piety.
That dog won't hunt.

You may think this folksy wisdom you are trying to express serves you, but I assure you it does not. It makes you no more biblically faithful and fools no one else. It just makes you unqualified to speak on the topic credibly.
Again, the term was likely coined by a person who didn't like God's Sovereign authority over salvation and attempted a nuanced end around to save face.
The Bible is simple. Men try to muddy it up because they hate the fact that God is Supreme and they are not.
Enjoy your contra-dicta-willian concepts. [emoji16]
 

HeirofSalvation

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Again, the term was likely coined by a person who didn't like God's Sovereign authority over salvation and attempted a nuanced end around to save face.
Again, your mind reading abilities truly astound.
Why not simply read my mind instead of ask on a forum what the term means?
BTW, how can you simultaneously not be familiar with the meaning of a term, but also suggest you have some knowledge of its etymology and the psycho-emotional states of the person that coined the term and what they believed about salvation or whether they had any views on the topic or even acknowledged it as an issue to be debated?

Are these abilities a result of your mind-reading gifts?

The Bible is simple.
No, it isn't.
Well, maybe to you it is, but the apostle Peter self-admittedly sometimes found it hard to understand.
Then again, he couldn't read minds.
Men try to muddy it up because they hate the fact that God is Supreme and they are not.
I can furnish objective evidence that you and you alone (of any people we can speak intelligently of) have any degree of hatred of God's supremacy, as you have expressed it yourself.
I can further supply objective evidence that it is a comfort to everyone else polled whom we can both speak intelligently of.
Enjoy your contra-dicta-willian concepts.
They are not my concepts.
 

Particular

Well-Known Member
Again, your mind reading abilities truly astound.
Why not simply read my mind instead of ask on a forum what the term means?
BTW, how can you simultaneously not be familiar with the meaning of a term, but also suggest you have some knowledge of its etymology and the psycho-emotional states of the person that coined the term and what they believed about salvation or whether they had any views on the topic or even acknowledged it as an issue to be debated?

Are these abilities a result of your mind-reading gifts?


No, it isn't.
Well, maybe to you it is, but the apostle Peter self-admittedly sometimes found it hard to understand.
Then again, he couldn't read minds.

I can furnish objective evidence that you and you alone (of any people we can speak intelligently of) have any degree of hatred of God's supremacy, as you have expressed it yourself.
I can further supply objective evidence that it is a comfort to everyone else polled whom we can both speak intelligently of.

They are not my concepts.
No one has posted the contra-dictatoran free will theory of enlightenment for us to read. Since it seems to be your pet philosophy, enlighten my dull mind.
 

MB

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No one has posted the contra-dictatoran free will theory of enlightenment for us to read. Since it seems to be your pet philosophy, enlighten my dull mind.
First of all there is no dictator of freewill other wise it would not be free. The term means against freewill.
MB
 

Alan Gross

Well-Known Member
No, the question was who wrote Eph. 1:1.....according to the text.

The answer (according to God's perfect Word) is Paul, and he didn't have a keyboard.

o.k.

There's no deception.
You repeated the often falsely stated assertion that God WROTE the Bible.
He did not, and it isn't a good view to hold.
He inspired the men who wrote it.

Eph. 1:1 STATES who wrote it.
To deny the Pauline authorship of the text is to deny the text itself.

Note: Men wrote it, God inspired the men.
That is what the text teaches.
It is demonstrably false that God wrote the Bible.


You wrote this reply.

It's so cute.

Thank you, for this powerful addition.

You're really knowledgable.

Maybe, a genius.

You should put in for Administrator.
 

loDebar

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A synonym for supremacy is imperium. Imperium is defined as:
supreme power or absolute dominion. It also means: the right to command or to employ the force of the state.

What bothers you about God's imperium?
why did you need to use a synonym?
 

Particular

Well-Known Member
It is the wrong description of God and the OP suggests a incorrect premise. try omnipotent
He is more than the supreme power but He is all power, no one else has any power
Imperium is defined as:
supreme power or absolute dominion. It also means: the right to command or to employ the force of the state.

Supreme power and absolute dominion...sounds like omnipotence.

What irritates you about God's imperium?
 

loDebar

Well-Known Member
Imperium is defined as:
supreme power or absolute dominion. It also means: the right to command or to employ the force of the state.

Supreme power and absolute dominion...sounds like omnipotence.

What irritates you about God's imperium?
It suggest there are others with power but God has the most, God has all power, no other has power at all unless it is given by God.
 

Particular

Well-Known Member
It suggest there are others with power but God has the most, God has all power, no other has power at all unless it is given by God.
Of course, as Creator, all authority is God's, but God has given power to His creation.
In scripture we see Satan and later, humans, attempt to usurp God's authority. But God has imperium. He is Supreme.
 

loDebar

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Of course, as Creator, all authority is God's, but God has given power to His creation.
In scripture we see Satan and later, humans, attempt to usurp God's authority. But God has imperium. He is Supreme.
so you agree, if one has a problem with His authority , they are in rebellion
 
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