What brings unity among brethren?

The time has long come when many have not been enduring sound doctrine. False Teachers (Freemasons / Eastern Stars) have crept into the Churches, Christians have been conned out of The Holy Bible, and tricked into accepting equivalents to the Jehovah's Witnesses New World Mis-Translation. They've been fed with heretical material such as the likes of Rick Warren, T.D. Jakes, Joel Osteen, you name it. The Holy Bible is is not being taught in many Sunday Schools; replaced by fictional books of men. And if the Bible is taught, a barrage of different Mis-Translations are used, and it has set a pattarn of ever learning and never coming to a full knowledge of the truth. Sermons have become generic, as many Churches have become places for ear-tickling social gatherings. People are taught to "agree to disagee", and today we see that 70% of "professing Christians" don't believe that Jesus Christ is the ony way, (This evidence of proof per 2Peter 2-3 of their denying the Lord that bought them, and per many there are that follow after their pernicious ways); hence we witness the Lukewarm Church. There is a growing famine for the hearing of the words of the LORD per Amos 8:11 as the spirit of iniquity is abounding. Many are slumbering, and the statistics reveal their bending of the knee to Baal. With the vast majority of Millenials converting to witchcraft, we are recognizing even more, further fulfillment of Revelation 2-3 per Jezebel's children. These things should be obvious to every Believer, but how many Remnant Believers are there, that are on the watch and discern these things?

 

You have it backwards. No one would have to prove you wrong in order for it to be possible that you are wrong. You are making use of a fallacy when you try to suggest that it is up to others to prove you wrong instead of you proving what you claim to be right.

The person who makes assertions that he claims to be true has the burden of proof to prove them to be actually true. You assume too much based on fallacies [faulty reasoning] for your conclusions to be credible. Some of your accusations are based on use of the guilt by association fallacy.

 

You do not prove what you claim to be true. English-speaking believers who read a different English Bible translation than the KJV have not been conned out of the Holy Bible. The KJV is not actually the holy Bible given by inspiration to the prophets and apostles. The KJV is a Bible translation in the same sense as the pre-1611 English Bibles of which it is a revision and in the same sense as post-1611 English Bibles such as the 1842 holy Bible by Baptists and the NKJV.

You may assume the unproven opinions of men concerning the KJV to be true by use of fallacies such as begging the question, but you have presented no positive, clear, consistent, just, true, scriptural case for them.

 

More than guilt by association, of which will be outlined soon enough. Isn't it interesting that you cannot disprove the content of these posts?

#1: What brings unity among brethren?

#2: What brings unity among brethren?

 

That's not the true; furthermore the accusation is not a refutation. ^^^ How do you explain the Antichrist/Apostate Fruits that we see today with over 70% of "professing Christians" bending the knee to Baal, with the vast majority of their children and grandchildren fully converting to witchcraft/atheism/Satanism/Paganism? Do you understand the Proverb of the dog returning to its vomit? Prov 26:11 & 2Pet 2:22

 

When fallacies such as begging the questions, special pleading, circular reasoning, etc are used to assume KJV-only premises to be true, the conclusions based on those unproven premises are suspect and are not proven to be true. You dodge or avoid your burden of proof as you try to reverse or shift it to others.

You merely assume that your unproven claims could not be disproven. Pointing out the evident use of fallacies in your reasoning would be enough to call your unproven conclusions into question. You jump to wrong conclusions concerning the facts because of your incorrect, unsound, unproven premises.

 

My statement is the truth. You cannot refute nor disprove it since it is the truth.

 

This statement is also true according to any sound definition of a Bible translation and according to what the Scriptures teach.

You have not refuted nor disproved my correct statement.

 

^^^^ The perfect example of slander to cast doubt on The Holy Bible with dodgeball jargon to avoid answering the real fact that the Seventh Day Adventists, and Jehovah's Witnesses use the Gnostic Perversion rewrites of the Bible to deny the Deity of Christ and preach "another jesus". The sample that I posted is but one sample. There are many more, including how false pastors on T.B.N. use the Modern Mis-Translations to teach antichrist doctrines of devils that are opposite of what The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles preached. The Jehovah's Witnesses has played this game a lot longer than you have. They formulated your arguments. Your arguments are not your own. They did not orginate with you. They originated in the Occult by Satanists that make of the membership of Jezebel's false prophets.

 

My scripturally-based arguments are not my own. They originate from the Scriptures and from the Holy Spirit of truth who guides me in my understanding of scriptural truths. You have not answered nor refuted my scripturally-based points.

 

These are from a quick search for a few links per statistics (There are other valid sources):

"Other notable stats showed that born-agains have decreased in number by 22 percent since 1976, while only one in three of emerging adults who said they have been born-again believe that Jesus Christ is the only way to get into heaven. "This means that two thirds of them do not believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven," Cable said.

Only 1 in 3 Young Born-Again Evangelicals Believe Jesus Is Only Way to Heaven, Apologist Says

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"Of over 2 billion Christians in the world, less than 30% will ever read through the entire Bible. The fact is over 82% of Christian Americans only read their Bibles on Sundays while in church.

A little over 20 years ago, Gallup released the results of a major study indicating that 86% of Americans claimed to be Christian, although only 70% of these admitted to being “born again” according to biblical measure.

In recent studies, the Pew research indicates that only 25% of Americans now attend church any given Sunday, significantly down from 47% in 1990.

The study also shows that, in evangelical churches throughout the United-States, statistics show 36% of those who attend church weekly indicate that believing in Jesus Christ is the only true way to Heaven. A shocking 57% of American Christians believe other religions can lead to eternal life.

One of the main reasons why American Christians don’t read their bibles is, only 22% of them believe the Bible is fully inspired by God Himself, and written by men who were divinely appointed by the Lord almighty. Over 1 in 4 American Christians believe the bible to be a book written by mere men, not at all the word of God."

Christians Don’t Read Their Bible | The Ponce Foundation

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Why Jesus Is No Longer the Only Way for Many American Christians:

Why Jesus Is No Longer the Only Way for Many American Christians

Many Americans Say Other Faiths Can Lead to Eternal Life

"A majority of all American Christians (52%) think that at least some non-Christian faiths can lead to eternal life. Indeed, among Christians who believe many religions can lead to eternal life, 80% name at least one non-Christian faith that can do so. These are among the key findings of a national survey conducted by the Pew Forum on Religion & Public Life from July 31-Aug. 10, 2008, among 2,905 adults."

Many Americans Say Other Faiths Can Lead to Eternal Life


I recommend Jan Markell's audio's for information:

Beauty for Ashes
December 29, 2018

Jan Markell opens with a short review of prominent issues in 2018. Then she interviews Julie Braden who is a survivor of the Paradise, California wildfire last November 8. Hear her incredible story and how Julie and her husband are redeeming the nightmare circumstances. Learn how they try to make beauty from ashes as in Isaiah 61.

https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/listen/beauty-for-ashes-734188.html

The Second Coming of the New Age
January 19, 2019

Jan Markell talks to former New Ager Steven Bancarz for the hour. This $10 billion movement has "Christianized" its tactics to fool Christians and infiltrate the church. Over 60% of Christians embrace at least one New Age belief and the doctrine of demons has moved into many church sanctuaries. Listen to Steven’s warnings.

https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/listen/the-second-coming-of-the-new-age-737960.html

Watching Evil Wax Worse and Worse
February 2, 2019

Jan Markell discusses the perils of the paranormal with Eric Barger and Jill Martin Rische. We are watching evil wax worse and worse as predicted for the last days. From the demon possession and blatant occult featured on Netflix to the Arch of Palmyra in Washington, mankind is celebrating the dark. This has consequences. What can Christians do?

https://www.oneplace.com/ministries/understanding-the-times/listen/watching-evil-wax-worse-and-worse-740604.html

Hope these will prove to be of help to you.

 

A Member of the BB Forum, Seventh Day Adventist, Eugene Shubert's 100% blasphemous "Antichrist Commentary on Philippians 2:6" *agrees with your arguments for the Mis-Translations: (So does the Watchtower Society of Jehovah's Witnesses, that teach the very same antichrist doctrines using the same Gnostic Perversions of the Bible; an easy post for another day):

A Commentary on Philippians 2:6 - The Seventh-day Millerite / Adventist / Shubertian Forum

"God didn't think it robbery to be equal to Himself

It seems that many Trinitarian translators have a difficulty understanding Philippians 2:6. *Here are a few reasonable translations of Philippians 2:6:

New English Bible (NEB)
For the divine nature was his from the first; yet he did not think to snatch at equality with God

New American Standard Bible
who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped,

NET Bible
who though he existed in the form of God did not regard equality with God as something to be grasped,

Berean Literal Bible
Who, existing in the form of God, did not consider to be equal with God something to be grasped,

New American Bible (Revised Edition) (NABRE)
Who, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped.

English Standard Version (ESV)
who, though he was in the form of God, did not count equality with God a thing to be grasped,

Modern English Version (MEV)
who, being in the form of God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped.

Orthodox Jewish Bible (OJB)
Who, though existing in the demut of the mode of being of Elohim [His etzem or essential nature], nevertheless Moshiach did not regard being equal with G-d as a thing to be seized,

Young's Literal Translation
who, being in the form of God, thought not robbery to be equal to God,

The meaning of Philippians 2:6 depends on understanding two things: the phrase "the form of God" and the Greek word harpagmos (translated, robbery).

The word translated form is morphe (pronounced mor-fay'). It occurs only in three places in the New Testament and in each place is rendered form (Mark 16:12; Philippians 2:6-7). In Mark it is applied to the form which Jesus assumed after his resurrection, and in which he appeared to two of his disciples on his way to Emmaus. "After that he appeared in another form unto two of them." This "form" was so unlike his usual appearance, that they did not know him. The word properly means 1. the form by which a person or thing strikes the vision; 2. external appearance. The word form does not suggest that the appearance is the true revelation of the object itself. The form merely participates in the reality.

Confessing Millerite Adventists believe that Christ is a divine and infinite Being having the form of God, and all the essential qualities of God, and yet not exactly God in the fullest sense possible. Here is the scholarly support:

The Septuagint makes use of the term morphe in such passages as Judges 8:18, where it describes Gideon's brothers as having the "form" of princes. And in Isaiah 44:13 where the craftsman is described as making idols in the "form" of a man. Clearly, an idol in the "form" of a man is not equally great as a man. True exegesis reaches this irrefutable conclusion: "The form of something" refers to appearance, likeness and similarity. It is never a reference to exact equality.

Now consider harpagmos. The basic idea of the word ([Greek: harpagmos] in Philp. 2:6) is that of seizing what one does not possess. —F. F. Bruce, Answers to Questions, Grand Rapids, Michigan: Zondervan Publishing House, 1972, p. 109.

Let's make use of both of these impressive summations and translate the essential meaning of Philippians 2:6.

"Christ, who was nearly God, did not think of grasping at equality with God."

If you think about it, every Trinitarian translation of this verse that attempts to be literal is empty of content. See KJV and NKJV. It is nonsense to translate Philippians 2:6 to mean God didn't think it robbery to be equal to Himself.

Colossians 2:9
"For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form."

'Deity' in Colossians 2:9 of the NASB (and Godhead in the KJV) is a translation of the Greek theotees, which is "an abstract noun for theos," the usual Greek word translated 'God.' (Greek-English Lexicon, Bauer, Arndt, Gingrich). "An abstract noun is one indicating a quality, as goodness, beauty." (Funk and Wagnalls Standard Dictionary, International Edition).

So the Son of God possesses all the fullness of the Father's qualities. This Confessing Millerite Adventist theology on Christ's qualities sounds virtually identical to William Barclay's commentary on John 1:1.

William Barclay wrote:

Finally John says that "The Word was God". There is no doubt that this is a difficult saying for us to understand, and it is difficult because Greek, in which John wrote, had a different way of saying things from the way in which English speaks. When the Greek uses a noun it almost always uses the definite article with it. The Greek for God is `theos', and the definite article is `ho'. When Greek speaks about God it does not simply say `theos'; it says `ho theos'. Now, when Greek does not use the definite article with a noun that noun becomes much more like an adjective; it describes the character, the quality of the person. John did not say that the Word was `ho theos'; that would have been to say that the Word was identical with God; he says that the Word was `theos' --without the definite article-- which means that the Word was, as we might say, of the very same character and quality and essence and being as God. When John said `The Word was God' he was not saying that Jesus is identical with God; he was saying that Jesus is so perfectly the same as God in mind, in heart, in being that in Jesus we perfectly see what God is like. --The Daily Study Bible --The Gospel of John vol.1 III. [Revised Edition ISBN 0-664-21304-9]

The essence of anything infinite is infinity. However, it remains that the Father ranks above the Son by a greater infinity. Please permit me to express my theology with a simpler example. Confessing Millerite Adventists believe that the Son has an infinite understanding and only knows the present and the past and everything that the Father has revealed to Him with perfect exactness. So the Father is Omniscient but the Son is not. The Scriptural evidence for this doctrine is Revelation 1:1. There, the Father has reportedly given the resurrected Christ a vision of the future to give to the Apostle John."

 

For many years Jehovah's Witnesses taught their incorrect doctrines using the KJV.

The fact that a cult made use or misuse of a certain Bible text or certain translation is not valid, sound evidence that a certain Bible translation whether the KJV or another one is what is responsible for the cult's false teachings.

A consistent, just application of a KJV-only inconsistent, unsound, incorrect assertion would condemn the KJV because JW's used it to teach their incorrect doctrines.

 

English-speaking believers who read a different English Bible translation than the KJV have not been conned out of the Holy Bible as one poster incorrectly alleged.

The 1560 Geneva Bible is a holy Bible in the same sense as the 1611 KJV, the 1842 holy Bible by Baptists is a holy Bible in the same sense as the KJV, and the NKJV is a holy Bible in the same sense as the KJV.

James 3:17
But the wisdom that is from above if first pure, then peaceable, gentle and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.

The showing of partiality and the hypocrisy in inconsistent KJV-only accusations against other English Bibles reveal that those allegations are not from the wisdom from God above. There is no gentleness in KJV-only accusations against believers in God and in the Scriptures.

 

Do you know who William Miller was? Do you know who Johannes Greber was? Do you know what Church, Charles Taze Russel was raised up in? Do you know who Charles Taze Russell "studied" with before forming the Watchtower Society? Do you understand Ellen G. White's, Charles Taze Russell's, and Joseph Smith's Illuminati-Masonic Memberships and roots? Do you understand that they were false prophet antichrists that came out of Christian Churches and wrested the Scriptures of The Holy Bible to teach their antichrist doctrines of devils? Do you understand that they stole The Holy Bible from the Church to wrest the Scriptures? Do you understand that they taught the antichrist opposite of what is written in The Holy Bible? Do you understand the passages of Matt 24, 2Pet 2-3, & Jude concerning false prophets, false Christs, false teachers that would wrest the Scriptures? Do you understand that these things were fortold by The Lord Jesus Christ and His chosen Apostles? Do you know that Freemasons have crept in unawares into the SBC, Semenaries, and other Denominations for well over 150 years ago, have taken root and as Jezebel's servants, have set up stumbling blocks to deceive people? Do you know who they answer to? Do you know how much they are worth financially, as they have deceived and robbed the nations of their wealth? Do you understand the Prophetic Fulfillment of these things? They have been at work for centuries, well before you were born. They are Satan's seed. Wake up and repent! This is End Times Deception! You know that those "Modern Translations" deny the Deity of Christ, and that is a powerful sample of their deception. The N.A.S.B., N.K.J.V. are just as bad. I can see the difference, and can show you how the N.A.S.B. matches up, nearly word for word, to the Watchtower's New World Mis-Translation. That will be done soon. I hope that you will consider the evidence that has been shared with you, along with these remarks and questions.

 

Your posts show that your claims involve the use of unscriptural, unjust measures/standards. Incorrect, unproven, non-scriptural KJV-only assumptions may cause you to jump to wrong conclusions. I have considered the evidence using consistent, just measures/standards, and it does not lead to your incorrect KJV-only opinions.

Questions do not establish truth. Questions are invalid when they assume as premises assertions that have not been proven to be true.

 

The S.D.A. Millerite's website has precise quotes from the Gnostic Perversions that deny the Deity of Christ, and that man is a member of this Forum. The link to his website is located in the signature for his profile that shows up in every post and thread that he makes in this Forum. He posted those quotations, not me. That is the work that the Antichrist Movement does. And he used the same Mis-Translations that you and your friends defend. My questions are solid. Your inability of answer is questionable. Your accusations toward me, in the face of the undeniable facts that I have exposed, and that being just a mere sample, demonstrates your inability and/or outright refusal to admit the truth of the fact that the denial of the Deity of Christ in those Gnostic Perversions are used to deceive the masses. The statistics of the numbers of JWs, S.D.A., Mormons, and other Cults are easy to look up. Use "Google" and while you are at it, fact check other verses of Scripture that they use to teach their antichrist doctrines of devils, that have been craftily designed and laid out for them in the Gnostic Perversions of the Bible. Like I said, that is just one sample. There are multitudes more! You have come up against someone here that knows what he is talking about, and has the abilty to establish the facts by providing the evidence. There's a LOT MORE where that came from. You are going to have a difficult time keeping up your facade as more evidence of facts are posted. Look in the mirror, the sheepskin is slipping.