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What brings unity among brethren?

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Heretic Hunter

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God Himself ONLY has had ONE nation in a Covenant relationship with Him, Israel under the old Covenant!
I suppose you missed the New Covenant/Testament chapters in Heb 6-13 but then again, that's not surprising for someone disguised as a Baptist to do, that also parades him or herself as being "Yeshua" (another jesus by another name). Do you like it when people call you, "Yeshua"?
 

Yeshua1

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I suppose you missed the New Covenant/Testament chapters in Heb 6-13 but then again, that's not surprising for someone disguised as a Baptist to do, that also parades him or herself as being "Yeshua" (another jesus by another name). Do you like it when people call you, "Yeshua"?
None ever called me that, but do you mind when millions of Latino and Spanish persons are names Jesus?
And do you think America ever was in a covenant relationship with God same way Israel was under the Old One?
 

Yeshua1

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Does the bible teach doctrine is given to bring unity?
Or is doctrine to divide?
Some might suggest that when brothers are united in doctrine it is not doctrine that keeps them unified.
They might suggest these persons are held together by being dishonest, or untruthful in some kind of conspiracy :oops:
This might be a bit of a stretch:Redface
So is it doctrine or something else?
The simple and correct answer is not what, but whom, the Lord Jesus Himself!
 

Heretic Hunter

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None ever called me that, but do you mind when millions of Latino and Spanish persons are names Jesus?
And do you think America ever was in a covenant relationship with God same way Israel was under the Old One?
Are you a Mexican named Jesus, of which is not a reference to Messiah, but prefer to be called Yeshua, of which is a reference to Messiah? Or are you someone that is not a Mexican named Jesus, but simply call yourself, Yeshua, in reference to Messiah? What do people on Baptist Board call you? Jesus or Yeshua?
 

kyredneck

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Are you a Mexican named Jesus, of which is not a reference to Messiah, but prefer to be called Yeshua, of which is a reference to Messiah? Or are you someone that is not a Mexican named Jesus, but simply call yourself, Yeshua, in reference to Messiah? What do people on Baptist Board call you? Jesus or Yeshua?

Given a 'Winner' by Forever Settled the accuser.
 

Jerome

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Are you a Mexican named Jesus....What do people on Baptist Board call you? Jesus or Yeshua?
Yes, he started here as 'JesusFan' (6K+ posts).
Then he lost his password. He began using a second account which he'd set up previously, 'DaChaser1' (2K+ posts):
hard drive in my lap top crashed and burned, taking all passwords down with it, had this other one set up just in case, so going with it!

Now he's on identity #3 here: 'Yeshua1'
Not sure the reason for the shift from the second to third account...
 

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I think a good rule of thumb is that if your gospel divides you from other people who are true Christians then one of two things are true: either you hold a false gospel or you hold the gospel falsely.

How do you define being divided? I disagree with paedobaptism. I believe it is wrong to baptize anyone that has not made a credible profession of faith. I also disagree with Presbyterian ecclesiology and church polity. I have many dear paedobaptist friends. We are agreed on the main tenets of the Gospel. However, our theological disagreements cause us to separate into different fellowships. We are not united on certain things. We are divided.



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How do you define being divided? I disagree with paedobaptism. I believe it is wrong to baptize anyone that has not made a credible profession of faith. I also disagree with Presbyterian ecclesiology and church polity. I have many dear paedobaptist friends. We are agreed on the main tenets of the Gospel. However, our theological disagreements cause us to separate into different fellowships. We are not united on certain things. We are divided.



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I define being "divided" as having no relationship or association with another. I am looking at this from the "united" perspective. Too often we see the idea of "united in Christ" and "divided in doctrine" with the "united in Christ" being pretty much meaningless except for a well meaning sentiment.

I believe that we are to separate according to doctrine.

I would not, for example, become a member of a free-will Baptist church or a KJO Baptist church. That does not mean that I will not associate with those congregations or even attend a service. I would probably not attend a Presbyterian service because of doctrinal differences. That does not mean, however, that I would not encourage Presbyterians or join in a community program.

Mormonism is a religion that is not united to Christians in Christ. There is a division. The same is true of Jehovah Witnesses.

I believe that the criteria of actual division (not separation, as I see benefit even among less diverse doctrine) is Christ and centered on the gospel of Christ. That is the dividing point.
 

Logos1560

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Call me a liar again.

The truth is that saying someone's opinion is incorrect is not actually calling the person a liar. You did not prove what you alleged to be true so it could be mistaken.

People would generally believe whatever opinion that they state to be correct or true, but that does not mean that their opinion is actually correct. They may sincerely believe or assume that their opinion is a fact, but that does not make it actually a fact. They may be sincerely mistaken or may be basing their opinion on incorrect assumptions or incorrect information. If something is a factual claim or assertion, it could be verified and demonstrated to be an actual fact. It is wise not to assume to know the motives and reasons for why someone makes claims that a person does not or can not prove to be true.
 

Heretic Hunter

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The truth is that saying someone's opinion is incorrect is not actually calling the person a liar. You did not prove what you alleged to be true so it could be mistaken.

People would generally believe whatever opinion that they state to be correct or true, but that does not mean that their opinion is actually correct. They may sincerely believe or assume that their opinion is a fact, but that does not make it actually a fact. They may be sincerely mistaken or may be basing their opinion on incorrect assumptions or incorrect information. If something is a factual claim or assertion, it could be verified and demonstrated to be an actual fact. It is wise not to assume to know the motives and reasons for why someone makes claims that a person does not or can not prove to be true.
Rick, we should analyze the verifyable and actual facts in contrast with Biblical Doctrine. As I pointed out in a previous post What brings unity among brethren? on this thread, there are two members of BB that are proven to preach "another jesus" per 2Cor 11 & 1Jhn 4:1-5

Verifyable and actual facts here: Christ's Return: Spiritual or Physical?

Another verifyable and actual fact here: Is A Silent Church Complicit In The War Crimes of Its State?

I further pointed out verifyable and actual that the Seventh Day Adventist denies that The Lord Jesus Christ is Fully God and Fully Man; and I also provide actual evidence of fact that demonstrate why and how the Occult Gnostic Group uses rewritten Gnostic Perversions of the Bible for their agenda to propagate the damnable heresy, the wresting of the Scriptures to deny the Deity of The Lord Jesus Christ, as they instead preach "another jesus".

In this post, I will also address the fact that the first poster that I mentioned that denies the bodily ressurection of Jesus Christ and His physical return also uses one such Gnostic Perversion of the Bible, as he mocked the use of the King James Bible, to purport his antichrist doctrine of "another jesus". In reviewing that closed thread, pay careful attention by taking notes on the people, including a "redneck" from Kentucky, that were in agreement with that poster, as that is also verifyable and actual evidence of fact of the other heretics that sew disunity among Brethren.

Taken from my previous post on this thread; This is an antichrist quotation, taken from the website, denying the Deity of Jesus Christ by the wresting of the scriptures: "Confessing Millerite Adventists believe that Christ is a divine and infinite Being having the form of God, and all the essential qualities of God, and yet not exactly God in the fullest sense possible."

This is the link to the (Smoking Gun Evidence of using Gnostic Perversions of the Bible to deny the Deity of Jesus Christ) website: A Commentary on Philippians 2:6 - The Seventh-day Millerite / Adventist / Shubertian Forum

This is just a sample of verifyable and actual facts that I will be using with a series of posts that are being drafted for an up and coming thread of the Occult Agenda Against The Holy Bible to deceive the world into eating things sacrificed to idols/devils.
 

Logos1560

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we should analyze the verifyable and actual facts in contrast with Biblical Doctrine.


Some of what you may claim to be facts may actually be unproven assumptions or unproven allegations or subjective opinions. You have not convinced others that your personal human perspective is infallible, perfect, or above being challenged. You seem to preach at others as though it would be impossible for you to be mistaken in what you claim. You may be sometimes trying to claim that your opinions are facts. In my opinion, I have seen that some of your claims involve the use of unscriptural, unjust measures/standards [double standards] since you do not apply the same exact standards to the process of the making of the KJV.




 

Yeshua1

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Are you a Mexican named Jesus, of which is not a reference to Messiah, but prefer to be called Yeshua, of which is a reference to Messiah? Or are you someone that is not a Mexican named Jesus, but simply call yourself, Yeshua, in reference to Messiah? What do people on Baptist Board call you? Jesus or Yeshua?
How about just calling me a fellow Brother in the Lord?
 

Yeshua1

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Yes, he started here as 'JesusFan' (6K+ posts).
Then he lost his password. He began using a second account which he'd set up previously, 'DaChaser1' (2K+ posts):


Now he's on identity #3 here: 'Yeshua1'
Not sure the reason for the shift from the second to third account...
Been the same person all of the time though....
 

Yeshua1

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How do you define being divided? I disagree with paedobaptism. I believe it is wrong to baptize anyone that has not made a credible profession of faith. I also disagree with Presbyterian ecclesiology and church polity. I have many dear paedobaptist friends. We are agreed on the main tenets of the Gospel. However, our theological disagreements cause us to separate into different fellowships. We are not united on certain things. We are divided.



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I think the division would be when we divide over differences, and then also see the other party as not really being a Christian due to their views on certain doctrines!
 
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