Magnetic Poles
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And if you can't forgive others, then God won't forgive you. This sin of judgmentalism makes me worry for you BB!
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What constitutes "marriage"?
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Brother Bob
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Thanks for the spelling lesson, wasn't sure if the e went in there or not. I put it in and took it back out.
Magnetic Poles
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Just messin' with ya!
Brother Bob
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Makes me worry about you too. Church is a place for the saved who have repented of their sins and quit committing adultry, stealing and killing and such things. Do you all really have those kind of people as members in your church?
Hope of Glory
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Adultery, unless committed by my wife, is not mine to forgive; it's between them and God and them and their spouse. But, continuing in unrepentance is reason to break a fellowship. It's not reason to deny them from attending services, etc., but it is reason to exclude someone from the rolls, unless and until they repent.
Brother Bob
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Amen Hope;
Thanks
1 Corinthians, chapter 3
"16": Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
"17": If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians, chapter 3
"17": If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians, chapter 6
"19": What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
So you think you have a right to forgive a sin against God do you?
Thanks
1 Corinthians, chapter 3
"16": Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
"17": If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians, chapter 3
"17": If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.
1 Corinthians, chapter 6
"19": What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?
So you think you have a right to forgive a sin against God do you?
Brother Bob
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Galatians, chapter 5
"18": But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
"19": Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
"20": Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
"21": Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Not my words but the Scripture
"18": But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
"19": Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
"20": Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
"21": Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Not my words but the Scripture
Romans 1 Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were JUSTIFIED (just as if you never sinned) in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ, and in the Spirit of our God
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 "Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you.
"But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."
1 Corinthians 6:9-11 "Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God. And such were some of you.
"But you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus and by the Spirit of our God."
Brother Bob
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Frenchy;
I was chief among sinners until the Lord came into my life and I don't do those things anymore. So were all the rest of our membership, maybe not as bad as me but they all had sinned and come short of the Glory of God and took God to forgive them to give them eternal life. I am more concerned about their souls than letting them have membership. As long as I condone their actions they will continue but if they are put from among us then maybe, just maybe they will become sincere and really repent. What think you?
One question?
If your spouse was a member of the same church you are and committed adultery with another member of your church would you have to forgive him and if so, how many times, until he went through the whole membership?
Frenchy;
You don't question the Scriptures now do you?
I was chief among sinners until the Lord came into my life and I don't do those things anymore. So were all the rest of our membership, maybe not as bad as me but they all had sinned and come short of the Glory of God and took God to forgive them to give them eternal life. I am more concerned about their souls than letting them have membership. As long as I condone their actions they will continue but if they are put from among us then maybe, just maybe they will become sincere and really repent. What think you?
One question?
If your spouse was a member of the same church you are and committed adultery with another member of your church would you have to forgive him and if so, how many times, until he went through the whole membership?
Frenchy;
You don't question the Scriptures now do you?
I think this is the way it would go.
This happened one time in our church. a "saved" (we do not know hearts) married woman with 4 kids ran off with another man she met at work. she was confronted by the deacons but wouldn't repent, then it was brought before the whole congregation she still wouldn't repent so she was asked to leave till she got right with God and her family. She never did.
Now if she did make things right with her family and God and stood up before the church and repented then it would be the churches responsibilty to FORGIVE her and welcome her back into fellowship. God forgives us when we repent so why shouldn't we forgive others!
according to scripture this is what the church is to do. i am not the one questioning scripture
This happened one time in our church. a "saved" (we do not know hearts) married woman with 4 kids ran off with another man she met at work. she was confronted by the deacons but wouldn't repent, then it was brought before the whole congregation she still wouldn't repent so she was asked to leave till she got right with God and her family. She never did.
Now if she did make things right with her family and God and stood up before the church and repented then it would be the churches responsibilty to FORGIVE her and welcome her back into fellowship. God forgives us when we repent so why shouldn't we forgive others!
according to scripture this is what the church is to do. i am not the one questioning scripture
Magnetic Poles
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I think that maybe they should not be shunned or ejected, but welcomed into the body to hear the call of God on their lives.
Brother Bob
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Oh, when you put it that way you are getting close to what I have said all along. We too would confront her and tell her she must repent to God and ask His forgiveness and then if she wanted to become a member of the church we certainly would not question her salvation. And you did question the Scriptures when you asked me "when did I see God destroy someone", when the Scriptures say that He will.
If she made it right with God we would gladly receive her back to our fellowship by the door.
Magnetic Poles;
I sure hope you didn't misunderstand me. Never would we keep someone from coming into our church to worship according to their own convictions. We have a membership book with a list of names of who belongs to our church and that is what they would be removed from not condemning them to not being able to come to our services. We have had several Swaggerts in my life time and they are no longer with us and neither do they preach anywhere. Most run off with a young woman. I have alway believed if someone is not on the "Rock" something will get them and most time it is a woman/man or money.
Magnetic Poles;
I sure hope you didn't misunderstand me. Never would we keep someone from coming into our church to worship according to their own convictions. We have a membership book with a list of names of who belongs to our church and that is what they would be removed from not condemning them to not being able to come to our services. We have had several Swaggerts in my life time and they are no longer with us and neither do they preach anywhere. Most run off with a young woman. I have alway believed if someone is not on the "Rock" something will get them and most time it is a woman/man or money.
Brother Bob
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Don't you believe there are those among you who say they are saved but are not but in reality "wolves in sheeps clothing" who came in among you unawares to seek out your liberty and take peace from you.
Magnetic Poles;
Then you might cause them to miss Heaven thinking they were saved when they were not. And you will never convince me that an adultress is a saved Christian.
Magnetic Poles;
Then you might cause them to miss Heaven thinking they were saved when they were not. And you will never convince me that an adultress is a saved Christian.
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Then according to you you would have to throw out the verses that were mentioned on how to deal with sin. especially 1 Cor 5
church discipline is for those already In the church. and you don't let someone become a member who is living in habitual unrepented sin.
Brother Bob
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Frenchy;
Maybe we not so far apart after all.
Maybe we not so far apart after all.
Brother Bob
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saturneptune;
What county you live in?
What county you live in?
Magnetic Poles
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I just know that Jesus told the woman at the well that he did not condemn her either.
Brother Bob
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I agree Magnetic Poles;
But she was not in the church and that is what we have been discussing. If we didn't forgive those that have committed adultery then there wouldn't be many of us in the church.
But she was not in the church and that is what we have been discussing. If we didn't forgive those that have committed adultery then there wouldn't be many of us in the church.