What do Monergism and Synergism mean and why are they important?

[Yeshua1]

Again, Fin, note that TC did not provide any on-line lexicons, and disparaged the use of online study tools. Pay no attention is disparagement posts offering home cooking sources. Yes a book shelf of resources, such more than one bible version, an Exhaustive Concordance, a Bible Dictionary and other study tools certain can supplement you efforts.
Note the use of the word "enable?" No one can respond to the gospel unless they hear the gospel, therefore hearing the gospel "enables" a person to respond. Everybody probably agrees with that.
But can everyone respond? What about the first soil of Matthew 13. Those folks have been disabled. Thus even if they "hear it" they do not understand and therefore cannot respond. Now the second, third and fourth soils can hear and respond, but not all embrace the gospel with all their heart. Were they unable or did they choose to not engage fully? Food for thought Fin.

His point on reference tools is spot on, as have used all of those tools that he listed over the years, and never bother to check if the author was a calvinist or not while using them!

For example, Thayers lexicon is outdated now, but for its time was top notch, and he was a unitarian I believe, but he allowed the greek terms to speak what the scriptures used, even though he no doubt disagreed with those definitions at times!

 

[Revmitchell]

I think there is one thing everybody here agrees on is that nobody comes to Christ unless God (through the Holy Spirit) first does something.

Some say that drawing is the conviction brought by the Holy Spirit through Gospel preaching.

Others say that drawing is the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit.

But all agree the Holy Spirit does something to enable the hearer to respond. Where we differ is what, exactly, that "something" really is. And whether or not that "something" is always efficacious.

Thank you for that fair assessment.

 

[Yeshua1]

I think there is one thing everybody here agrees on is that nobody comes to Christ unless God (through the Holy Spirit) first does something.

Some say that drawing is the conviction brought by the Holy Spirit through Gospel preaching.

Others say that drawing is the regenerating work of the Holy Spirit.

But all agree the Holy Spirit does something to enable the hearer to respond. Where we differ is what, exactly, that "something" really is. And whether or not that "something" is always efficacious.

Yes, questions usually boil down to does God gave saving grace towards all or just some, and when he does, can will of man overcome will of God to save sinners.

 

[Revmitchell]

Y can will of man overcome will of God to save sinners.

Who asks this and who believes this?

 

[Van]

His point on reference tools is spot on, as have used all of those tools that he listed over the years, and never bother to check if the author was a calvinist or not while using them!

For example, Thayers lexicon is outdated now, but for its time was top notch, and he was a unitarian I believe, but he allowed the greek terms to speak what the scriptures used, even though he no doubt disagreed with those definitions at times!

Lots of disparagement about Thayers, but in truth it is way better than nothing. And it is available on line. Ditto for Strong's.

 

[Yeshua1]

Lots of disparagement about Thayers, but in truth it is way better than nothing. And it is available on line. Ditto for Strong's.

I stated that it was good tool for its time, but now outdated, and should consult more recent tools!

 

[Yeshua1]

Who asks this and who believes this?

Those who would hold that God desires to save all sinners, provided Jesus to die for all sinners, sent His Holy Spirit to grace all sinners, and yet many will still reject Him!

 

[Van]

Yes, questions usually boil down to does God gave saving grace towards all or just some, and when he does, can will of man overcome will of God to save sinners.

Verse please?

Pay no attention to all these pontificaters who cannot back of their claims with scripture.

Do a study and tell me how many times "saving grace" is found in scripture? Now compare that number with by grace you have been saved through faith.

 

[Van]

I stated that it was good tool for its time, but now outdated, and should consult more recent tools!

Which word number, say G3056, is so "outdated" it is not instructive? No answer will be forthcoming.

 

[Revmitchell]

Those who would hold that God desires to save all sinners, provided Jesus to die for all sinners, sent His Holy Spirit to grace all sinners, and yet many will still reject Him!

No they don't

 

[Reformed]

Those who would hold that God desires to save all sinners, provided Jesus to die for all sinners, sent His Holy Spirit to grace all sinners, and yet many will still reject Him!

That’s kind of a disjointed way of saying it, but you’re not inaccurate. Synergists typically believe that Jesus died for all, and offers a general call of salvation, but only those who believe are saved.


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[Van]

Hebrews 4:2
For indeed we have had good news preached to us, just as they also; but the word they heard did not profit them, because it was not united by faith in those who heard.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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