D28guy said:
By your own testimony you don't; you don't obey a simple command given in a small book of the NT:
2 John 1:10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
--So simple; and yet so difficult for you to receive.
OK. Here is a scripture for you...Mark 16:15-18
Unless I have misunderstood, I believe I have heard you say many times on these boards that the true gift of speaking in tongues is not for today. Well, God here says different.[/quote]
No God doesn't say anything different. He was speaking to His disciples. They were for the first century. I challenge you to pick up a jar of HCL and drink it. After all it does say "any deadly thing" you can drink, right? So why not take ALL of it literally?
Do you speak in tongues? If not, why? You need to deal with that commandment from the Lord. Obey it.
Do you lay hands on the sick, and they miraculously rise healed as Christ did? He said that those who believe will do it. You need to deal with that commandment from the Lord. Obey His clear directive to you.
Do you take up serpents? The scripture says His believers will do that. Why do you disobey Gods clear command to you to take up serpents? You need to deal with it! Obey it!
Again, you are a hypocrite. You don't do all that is written in that passage yourself. In fact you don't even speak in "Biblical tongues," or have the gift of "Biblical healing" as demonstrated in Acts 5:16. That in itself proves that todays "gifts," are a sham and fake.
You will probably say something like.... "Well, we dont interpret the scriptures in *isolation*. We take into consideration the WHOLE scriptural revelation. We compare scripture with scripture, and come to the reasonable interpretation based on the whole of Gods written revelation.
No, it proves what goes on today in the name of Christianity is an insult to God and Christ. It is blasphemy, (the definition of which is "insulting God.").
However when we do compare Scripture with Scripture it is very evident that the spiritual gifts have ceased, and yes we don't take Scripture in isolation, but we do take them in the context in which they are given. If the context is ignored, we will never come to the proper meaning of the passage in question.
And you would be correct in saying that. But you seem to have a selective memory regarding that pricliple. You take this scripture...
"If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:"
...and just rip it from the rest of scripture and interpret it in isolation....IN SPITE OF the fact that your view of it causes it to COMPLETLY and VIOLENTLY fly in the face of reams and reams and reams of scriptures that speak of contending earnestly for the truth with those you are in error, and preaching the true gospel to every person, and blessing those who persecute you, rather than curse them, and being able to use the scriptures for "reproof", "correction" and "instruction in rightiousness" regarding those who are in opposition.
How foolish. Scripture must be interpreted in the light of the context in which it is written. If you ignore the context in which it is written you have no meaning at all. If you ignore the context of the Israelites walking around the walls of Jericho, and the walls falling down, then, according to your method of interpretation--ignoring reams and reams of Scripture, one must conclude that any believer can walk around any "house or building" and have faith that the walls will come falling down. That is your application, because you ignore the immediate context and only take "the reams and reams of remote Scripture and apply them--ignoring immediate context.
When those in opposition came to Christ...He interacted with them. When they came to Paul, he interacted with them. Even the idolaters in Athens. And EVEN when they came to him when he was in his own rented home dwelling place. He recieved ALL who came to him.
This has nothing to do with the immediate context of the entire book of 2 John. It is non sequitor.
You are saying that we are to go into all the world, and minister to the lost to the furthest parts of the earth, EVERYWHERE the lost can be found!!!...EXCEPT if they come to your front door, where you show them christion *indifferance* and apathy by...turning them away.
Again, non sequitor. You ignore the context of the entire book. You also ignore the purpose and intent of the Great Commission and have it backwards. It says GO, not false teachers come. What a terrible interpretation.
The were primarily meeting in HOUSE churches for worship and teaching after they left Jerusalem.
Evidence please! There is nothing in the entire book to suggest a church;
Nothing!
And if false teachers came visiting and tried to dupe the chirstians into letting them TEACH and PROPAGATE the false teaching in that "house", the admonition you are referring to makes absolute sense.
That is why it is there. And that is what people like the J.W.'s do.
That is the ONLY application that makes any sense.
And by the way, regarding another comment of yours, I believe anyones kids would be greatly benefited and blessed by seeing their Dad caring about lost people enought to take an hour or so out of his free time to try and help some people who very much need to come to understand the truth regarding the true gospel.
They do see that; but never in the sanctity of my own home. It is outside; never inside. This house was dedicated to the Lord. We invite believers into our house for fellowship, Bible studies, etc. We don't invite false teacher's to spread heretical doctrines, messengers of Satan to spread Satan's message.
