Well, I guess we'll have to disagree. Imo, they are Demon possessed.trustitl said:
So casting demons out of them is not out of the question. Not sure how that would be carried out though....
I had a good friend in high school who was JW. We remained friends until about age 18 or 19. After we graduated, we both got married very soon and lived next door to one another.
Once at the Kingdom Hall, I saw my former bus driver from grade school. Mentioned this to my friend and his mother, and they both told me not to speak to him because he had been disfellowshiped. Never heard of that, so I asked what he did to deserve it. I was told he smoked a cigarette. He was a smoker years prior, and fell back into it. Of course, I was shocked.
I expressed my dismay and went over to speak to him in church. He had been sitting with his family, (including their young children) who had gotten up to socialize. He sat alone. He cut off our conversation quickly, because he said he was trying to get back into the good graces of the JW's. His family, including his kids, were not speaking to him. He felt he sinned, and deserved what he got. Of course, I told him differently but understood his reasoning. He missed his family terribly.
You see, his children, his wife and everyone in the congregation refused to speak to him or even awknowledge his presence in the church. When you are disfellowshipped, you sit with your family through many church services while others pass you by, ignore you, saying hello to everyone else. You are not to speak because you are being watched. You are shunned by friends and family for many months. At some point, the Elders decide who is re-instated back into the organization. It's a slow process.
Until this point, they hadn't mentioned it because JW's are told to "ease" you into the truth. Avoid answering any hard questions until the victims are readily indoctrinated.
My friends mother drove us to church that day so the whole way home I was very upset at all of them in the car. Could barely hold my tongue to not swear at them all. The feeling in the car felt satanic, never felt that feeling before.
He and his mother "justified" every concern I had while we rode the Mini van with his older brother and sister. All the while, they appeared like people out of "invasion of the body snatchers" It was like I could see horns growing out of their heads, no kidding. Felt this with all except the 22 year old older sister. She never spoke, and I felt kindof a kinship with her. A few weeks later, she left the church.
She stopped by our home a few weeks after this incident saying her husband told everyone she committed adultery. They were divorcing. (Btw, that is the only valid reason a JW can divorce another JW-or there may be one other reason at the most-death).
I had been alone with her, certainly not the flirty kind. When she dropped by unexpectidly, I always let her in the house and we would visit for a long while, even when my wife was gone. This is the sad part. She attempted to get custody or partial custody of her kids but couldn't. We continued to babysit for them, actually it was for the JW father sine they were separated, throughout their divorce.
I know the kids were told to lie, as the 5 year old told me what she was instructed to say. Imo, this is likely why she lost her kids. She was a wonderful mother who loved her kids, they were everything to her. Knowing what her parents, siblings and ex husband were saying about her tore her apart. The kids felt if they loved their mother, they were sinning because she was of "The lost" and suddenly not a good person. Not a good influence. Because we bonded to their children, we decided we wanted a baby so my wife got pregnant very soon.
We all grew up in the same small town together. I stated I would never be a JW in high school but would agree to study with my JW friend so his parents would allow us to remain friends. Obviously, I still attended church with them once in a while right after we graduated (as a favor) though we both were adults, had gotten married, and lived next door to one another.
I did a google search, and found this link. Apparently, instructing your kids upon what to say against the non-JW parent during child custody hearings is a common thing.
http://www.freeminds.org/psych/growinup.htm
So yes, they are Demon possessed imo. They are like pod people. A bunch of sick child abusers....Despite this, I still enjoy seeing my former JW friend around town though I lost respect for him that day.
They, like everyone else, need the gospel. When you convert a JW, you are also saving their children from abuse.
In the book, Aid to Bible Understanding Jehovah’s Witnesses are told that “a person is not under obligation to divulge truthful information to people are not entitled to it”
“Lying generally involves saying something false to
a person who is entitled to know the truth and doing
so with the intent to deceive or to injure him or
another person... While malicious lying is definitely
condemned in the Bible, this does not mean that a
person is under obligation to divulge truthful
information to people who are not entitled to it.”
Aid to Bible Understanding, 1971 ed., p. 1060-
1061
It becomes clear that the Society not only condones but even counsels it’s members to lie, even in a court of law. How then can one trust the testimony of a Jehovah’s Witness in a court of law?
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