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What Doctrine could keep us from Heaven?
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Ascetic X
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Jesus explained it clearly. John 3:19 Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness rather than light because their deeds are evil. The gospel is rejected when individuals refuse to abandon their favorite sins.
Atheism has nothing to do with not having enough evidence for God’s existence. It’s all about addiction to wickedness, with pride and selfishness leading the pack.
Oh Charlie, how shallow you Calvinist-slayers thoughts are on this. If you're making 'die in your sins' out to mean 'eternity in hell', your soteriology is salvation by works. Period.
Question for you oh great 'Calvinist-slayer': In the scriptures, does God's wrath on whoever always equate to 'eternity in hell'? Couldn't possibly simply be referring to consequences in this temporal realm?
...die in your sins....
Open for discussion. Compare: Ezekiel 3:18. "When I say to the wicked, ‘You will surely die,’ and you do not warn him or speak out to warn the wicked from his wicked way that he may live, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require at your hand." Ezekiel...
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POINT MADE.
I'm not a Universalist as you seem to be, so yes, the wrath of God if not canceled out by grace through faith is an eternity in the Lake of Fire, as the Scripture teaches.
If you're convinced it's not then show me where in Scripture they get out of the Lake of Fire once cast in according to Rev. 20:15.
Muslims & Jews do not deny the existence of Christ, but they deny him as Messaih & Savior as well as the son of G-d. The Jews will tell you they are still awaiting the coming of the Messiah. Therefore you suggest they aren’t credible.
Question, are Christian Nationalists credible?
What is a Christian Nationalist?
I am unaware of the existence of the nation of Christian.
I am happy for people who are loyal to their own country.
And I am very happy for Christians.
Is it impossible to be a patriotic Christian and be credible?
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Atheist Internationalists try to deprecate what they call Christian Nationalists. A patriotic Christian is not ever going to be credible to Atheist Internationalist one worlders.
That doesn’t answer the question.
You certainly are.
You didn’t answer the question either.
I gave it my best guess.
You supplied nothing. I can only assume that you don’t know either.
You must be too. It takes one to know one!
Kidding aside, your juvenile comment did nothing to explain what that means.
And if I am the definition of it, I’m for it. If you think that it is a bad thing, (it certainly sounds as if you do) maybe the worst thing you can do is to say that I am it. Now I am going to try to help you love your country and be patriotic and be a Christian at the same time. Based on your supplied example, I think everyone should be a Christian Nationalist.
But any time you want to supply a definition for it (besides myself) I would be happy to reconsider the subject.
Did you ever serve in the military? If not, where you ever on a town council and/or serve politically on any local positions?Lets start there shall we.
never assume
What doctrine…. That confuses me save Grace ie the being or the becoming a child of G-D.
Yep. Doctrines do not get us into Heaven.
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Repenting and trusting in Jesus Christ’s sacrifice on the cross for our sins, believing God raised Him from the dead.
Yep. Doctrine does not save us. The gospel is essential, but does not save. It is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes.
Are those qualifications for being a Christian Nationalist?
When will you stop dancing around the question and answer?
I don’t have to assume anymore. Your lack of knowledge shows itself in your failure to supply a simple definition.
You of course remember Tom our Administration Representative. Well he was forever telling me “Steve, it’s all of Grace”
no answers to my questions tough guy….again, what’s your service record to your country? Haven’t got one so you officiate … typical
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